UT Financial Aid- Full rides for family income <$65k

[UnfairPark]

Originally Posted by cordata

Do you feel like you are being screwed having to pay $10,000 per year for UT Austin tuition ? It sounds pretty cheap to me.

That’s correct, it’s cheap and UT has a huge endowment. Education can be made even more affordable for every tax paying family and then payment won’t even be a barrier for anyone.

Every student who wants to attend UT would be able to attend regardless if their parents can’t or wouldn’t agree to pay for it. UT can get businesses involved and let every kid pay through work hours at companies, university, hospitals, government etc. If we end unpaid internships then youth can be independent. No?

[cordata]

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

That’s correct, it’s cheap and UT has a huge endowment. Education can be made even more affordable for every tax paying family and then payment won’t even be a barrier for anyone. Every student who wants to attend UT would be able to attend regardless if their parents can’t or wouldn’t agree to pay for it. UT can get businesses involved and let every kid pay through work hours at companies, university, hospitals, government etc. If we end unpaid internships then youth can be independent.

Yes, these are obviously skewed towards those with money. But I don't see how you can end them.

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

That’s correct, it’s cheap and UT has a huge endowment. Education can be made even more affordable for every tax paying family and then payment won’t even be a barrier for anyone.

Every student who wants to attend UT would be able to attend regardless if their parents can’t or wouldn’t agree to pay for it. UT can get businesses involved and let every kid pay through work hours at companies, university, hospitals, government etc. If we end unpaid internships then youth can be independent. No?

There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

If businesses, hospitals, government, etc. are subsidizing students, costs will be passed on to the consumer or the taxpayer somehow. Or other people won't be given jobs. Don't think for a minute that the bottom line will suffer.

I agree that tuition is out of control. But "free college education" cannot and never will be "free."

[UnfairPark]

Not giving free lunch or subsidizing, just paying for their work and in a way training future employees. UT itself has thousands of jobs which can be done by students as a way to save school a lot of money to become tuition free.

[Waterdragon8212]

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

Not giving free lunch or subsidizing, just paying for their work and in a way training future employees. UT itself has thousands of jobs which can be done by students as a way to save school a lot of money to become tuition free.

Not saying they couldn't change the system (or haven't already), but over 2 decades ago, when I was at UT, it was nearly impossible to get a work study position. In fact, the only person I knew in all 4 years who had one was a friend who had aged out of foster care right before college. If work/study positions were hard to come by when tuition was dirt cheap, it's hard to imagine they'd suddenly have a plethora of them when so many more students struggle to afford tuition...

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

Not giving free lunch or subsidizing, just paying for their work and in a way training future employees. UT itself has thousands of jobs which can be done by students as a way to save school a lot of money to become tuition free.

That isn't a literal expression.

"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" means that everything has a cost.

Those jobs you want to give to students hurt another person who no longer has that job.

You want to take from someone to subsidize someone else's education. I don't see how the student has more of a right to a reduced cost education versus the right of another person to have that job.

[UnfairPark]

Originally Posted by calgirlinnc

That isn't a literal expression.

"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" means that everything has a cost.

Those jobs you want to give to students hurt another person who no longer has that job.

You want to take from someone to subsidize someone else's education. I don't see how the student has more of a right to a reduced cost education versus the right of another person to have that job.

If a young person is capable to do the job, he has as much right to do it as the old guy. If UT can’t offer any aid to those students who’s parents aren’t footing their bills, the least they can do is offer means to pay it themselves.

[calgirlinnc]

Originally Posted by UnfairPark

If a young person is capable to do the job, he has as much right to do it as the old guy. If UT can’t offer any aid to those students who’s parents aren’t footing their bills, the least they can do is offer means to pay it themselves.

UT is not the only option for employment.

And no UT does not owe anyone an education or a way to pay for it.

Every child in this country receives 13 years of education paid for by the taxpayers. After that, you are a legal adult and it is no one else's responsibility to pay for you.

[Taub201]

How much of the $12K or so in annual tuition is expected to be covered by Federal Pell Grants vs. system funds?


With USN&WR's ranking change to include Pell Grant recipients, it's a particularly good time to make this change.


With A&M's $60K offer starting in 2008, it's about time to one-up the Horns and move up to $70K in family income. :-)

[UnfairPark]

Originally Posted by calgirlinnc

UT is not the only option for employment.

And no UT does not owe anyone an education or a way to pay for it.

Every child in this country receives 13 years of education paid for by the taxpayers. After that, you are a legal adult and it is no one else's responsibility to pay for you.

That’s the real issue. Some legal adults get it for free, others doesn’t.