Dallas is losing Tech Jobs (Atlanta, Reno: university, wage, living)

[biafra4life]

Originally Posted by jd433

Missing the opportunity to pick up Amazons HQ2 was a landmark and pivotal point for the city. They had Amazon in their grips and let it go.
The state Department Of Economic Development failed Dallas and abandoned the city when Dallas needed them the most.
The real reason for the loss was a lack of incentives from the state.

It’s especially galling to me when you see just how much money governments around here have to throw at all manner of foolishness. I’ve watched local cities spend hundreds of millions to get the Dallas Cowboys practice field as well as build high school football stadiums without batting an eye, but bring in a company with REAL jobs now all of a sudden everyone is a fiscal conservative around here. Amazing.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by BigDGeek

Dallas's jobs aren't going to the coasts...they're going to India and the Philippines.

That's not what the article says

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

That's not what the article says

There actually is truth in this. Innovation tech jobs are going to the coasts but that is not and never has been what DFW specialized in. SUPPORT roles are whats going overseas, and DFW has more than its fair share of those kinds of roles.

[Capitalprophets]

Don't feel so pessimistic about Dallas losing tech jobs so quick. Google is building a 600m data center in Midlothian (Ellis Cty). Especially once the Hyperloop gets fully constructed between Houston and Dallas. Allot of tech companies will want to get shifted here due to access to talent from 2 big cities.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...exas-presence/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ture=emb_title

This is a good start.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

There actually is truth in this. Innovation tech jobs are going to the coasts but that is not and never has been what DFW specialized in. SUPPORT roles are whats going overseas, and DFW has more than its fair share of those kinds of roles.

You're right about support jobs going overseas, that's happening all over the US. My husband worked as a network security analyst for a large company in Nevada. During the last 5 years before he retired about 90% of the staff was fired and network administration was outsourced to India. He kept his job because he did more than reboot servers but there were a lot of people laid off during that time who were unable to find work in their field anywhere.

[Sunbather]

Originally Posted by Capitalprophets

Don't feel so pessimistic about Dallas losing tech jobs so quick. Google is building a 600m data center in Midlothian (Ellis Cty). Especially once the Hyperloop gets fully constructed between Houston and Dallas. Allot of tech companies will want to get shifted here due to access to talent from 2 big cities.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...exas-presence/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ture=emb_title

This is a good start.

While not bad to get, their data center campuses in midlothian and red oak will not produce hardly any long term jobs. It will sustain jobs during construction which is not bad, but long term these facilities are a shell with very few people stationed there. They have no current plans to move any further real jobs to this area.

(I turned down a job from big G where the role would have been a design/construction manager during their construction and rolling into an engineering operations manger for the midlothian site when operations started)

Not saying they might not have more local presence here eventually, but it's not really a google presence as much as just a presence for google data.

[RJ312]

Tech jobs have a downside. They turn metro areas into even bigger sausage tests than they already are. For instance, the male-female ratio in San Jose is nearly as bad as Shanghai.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Sunbather

While not bad to get, their data center campuses in midlothian and red oak will not produce hardly any long term jobs. It will sustain jobs during construction which is not bad, but long term these facilities are a shell with very few people stationed there. They have no current plans to move any further real jobs to this area.

(I turned down a job from big G where the role would have been a design/construction manager during their construction and rolling into an engineering operations manger for the midlothian site when operations started)

Not saying they might not have more local presence here eventually, but it's not really a google presence as much as just a presence for google data.

That's true, Apple has a big data center in Reno, they started with 100 employees when they doubled capacity they hired another 100. It's basically a lights out operation, employees are on hand to swap out equipment if it fails.

[As Above So Below...]

This thread's existence is a perfect example of trolling.

Posting an article with out of context data to get people riled up.

[Sunbather]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

That's true, Apple has a big data center in Reno, they started with 100 employees when they doubled capacity they hired another 100. It's basically a lights out operation, employees are on hand to swap out equipment if it fails.

Depending on the size, even 100 is a lot.

Once construction is done, I'd be surprised if G has more than 25 full time employees on each campus. Most of them will be maintenance crew, security guards, and janitors on contract. Plus the small team of Operations that are direct hire google technicians and site engineers. The rest will be in their larger corporate offices in the data center divisions. Same for people like FB.