Is all this growth really a good thing? (Houston, Dallas: apartments, houses)

[NoClueWho]

Originally Posted by serger

First, that does not mean that anybody can afford to live in any area.
Second, it doesn't necessarily help in case of two earner households.
Then, if kids, there are school considerations.

Exactly. "One size fits all" solutions don't work for every person or for every situation. People who have a, "I got mine, so now you get YOURS (even if your situation isn't the same as mine)," attitude tend to think they do, though ...and DFW is FULL of those types of people, which is why this poll question is so funny to ask on a Dallas forum.

[biafra4life]

Here's the problem. Everyone complains about "they should have done better planning for all the growth that came." OK let's take a look at some cities populations:

1990 2018
Frisco 6,138 188,170
Allen 18,309 103,383
McKinney 21,283 191,645
Wylie 8,716 51,585
Rockwall 10,486 45,112

Who would have guessed in 1990 that the towns above would have such massive population growth in less than 30 years? Allen is 5 times the size it was in 1990. Wylie is 6 times larger. Frisco is THIRTY times larger. If you are saying that anyone could have forecasted this growth, you need to tell that person to run and go play the lottery. Just saying.

[cityfolk89]

You're either growing, or you're dying. I'll take growth, in whatever form it comes in. Those who don't get with the times will be left behind and complaining, as usual.

Dallas has managed it's growth exceptionally well relative to a city like Austin which has very serious infrastructure issues that are not being addressed actively and unlikely to be easily fixed anytime soon.

[TheOverdog]

If you are saying that anyone could have forecasted this growth, you need to tell that person to run and go play the lottery. Just saying.

It's really not that hard to forecast where this growth is going to occur. Local transportation plans always come first - ie: 121 was a huge road before Frisco had much population. If you think they are expanding the roads around you to support existing traffic, think again. To be more specific, if you think the extensions of the DNT and the "380 outer loop" are to support existing traffic, or the widening of Alma Road through Allen, you are wrong.

[biafra4life]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

It's really not that hard to forecast where this growth is going to occur. Local transportation plans always come first - ie: 121 was a huge road before Frisco had much population. If you think they are expanding the roads around you to support existing traffic, think again. To be more specific, if you think the extensions of the DNT and the "380 outer loop" are to support existing traffic, or the widening of Alma Road through Allen, you are wrong.

Maybe so, but it's worth pointing out that 121 runs through other towns that have not had the massive growth of Frisco. The Colony and Carrollton come to mind. They've had some growth but nothing like Frisco. So I dont know about being able to forecast the growth that Frisco has had.

[RJ312]

Originally Posted by biafra4life

Here's the problem. Everyone complains about "they should have done better planning for all the growth that came." OK let's take a look at some cities populations:

1990 2018
Frisco 6,138 188,170
Allen 18,309 103,383
McKinney 21,283 191,645
Wylie 8,716 51,585
Rockwall 10,486 45,112

Who would have guessed in 1990 that the towns above would have such massive population growth in less than 30 years? Allen is 5 times the size it was in 1990. Wylie is 6 times larger. Frisco is THIRTY times larger. If you are saying that anyone could have forecasted this growth, you need to tell that person to run and go play the lottery. Just saying.

All of those places were better in 1990 than they are presently.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by jd433

We love the growth and jobs etc. But are all the new people a good thing? Crime is up in Dallas, so is the cost of living.

...You are really just a troll in sheeps clothing. People just keep biting the bait.

HOUSTON IS IN TROUBLE....go focus on making threads about its gloomy future.

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by dallasboi

...You are really just a troll in sheeps clothing. People just keep biting the bait.

HOUSTON IS IN TROUBLE....go focus on making threads about its gloomy future.

Boi, I feel the same way!

[Capitalprophets]

I don't get this question. Is there a right answer? Is this a survey thingy? It's very subjective to who is answering this question. I'm sure the Native American Indians didn't appreciate growth but only if they had a choice. I'm almost certain growth turns suburbs into cities, almost no choice for the people who moved there to avoid the city life. Again, growth is almost necessary for any type of environment if it's in a positive direction. I guess it really depends on how growth is defined in this question.

[Johnhw2]

Originally Posted by TurtleCreek80

Crime is up in Dallas because DPD is severely understaffed and a more lenient DA (both reasons that merit their own thread), not because of the population increase. Besides, most of the DFW population growth hasn’t even happened in Dallas County.

Give me life in a growing, thriving metro area ANY DAY over cities that are declining or stagnant. Growth = opportunity, plain and simple.

I agree 100%.

I lived in a depressing rust belt city and do not want a repeat.

As long as other major cities let quality of life drop and/ or jobs leave due to business environment as was part of the reason for Toyota's move some places will see gains and I'm happy for it to be DFW metro and Texas in general.