Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Texas > Dallas
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-25-2020, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
3,887 posts, read 2,199,041 times
Reputation: 1783

Advertisements

I thought this interesting.
6 affluent Dallas-Fort Worth cities cash in as the richest in Texas - CultureMap Dallas
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-25-2020, 11:33 AM
 
5,829 posts, read 4,169,655 times
Reputation: 7645
Money, money, money.....it's all this board talks about.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2020, 12:21 PM
 
113 posts, read 104,243 times
Reputation: 156
It's interesting that the median household income of Southlake is higher than that of Highland Park. However, I guess the average household income of Highland is the highest.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2020, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
3,887 posts, read 2,199,041 times
Reputation: 1783
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlecZTexan View Post
It's interesting that the median household income of Southlake is higher than that of Highland Park. However, I guess the average household income of Highland is the highest.
Isn't Highland Park old money?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2020, 02:39 PM
 
113 posts, read 104,243 times
Reputation: 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by brock2010 View Post
Isn't Highland Park old money?
Yes. Highland Park is old money in Dallas. Here is an interesting description from https://thedallaswhisperer.wordpress...l-of-a-sudden/

Historically, over the last 100 years, moneyed people in Dallas have flowed north out of downtown, to the Park Cities, Preston Hollow, and into North Dallas. The middle class or more moderate income people moved east through Old East Dallas, to Lakewood, then east of the Lake into Lake Highlands and Far East Dallas. I should point out that for the first half of the past century this meant white moneyed people and white middle class. Minorities (both wealthy and not so wealthy) generally moved south into Oak Cliff, Pleasant Grove, and onto the suburbs like Desoto and Duncanville. Perhaps this is a slight oversimplification, but in broad terms it is true (except for the minorities part which has been changing for the past 30 or so years).

Well for the moneyed people of Dallas, where you live is a really big deal. It’s not just your zip code, not just whether you live in the Park Cities or not, and it’s not even which street you live on. It’s the street AND the address. There are some in Highland Park who talk about living in “Old” Highland Park as opposed to the newer sections. Where the new sections refer to the Henry Exall developed property from a hundred and twenty years ago and not the J.S. Armstrong property from a hundred years ago. These people take where you live as a mark of how wealthy and how cultured you are.

So starting in the late 90’s with the gen x-ers, you had more and more moneyed people in Dallas trying to buy fewer and fewer homes. While it is socially acceptable to live in the Park Cities, certain parts of North Dallas and even perhaps parts of Richardson, it’s social suicide to move all the way to Plano or, gasp Frisco. And in these moneyed circles a huge amount of business gets done at social events, like dinner parties or charity balls, so social suicide begets economic suicide. In the minds of old money Dallas, moving to Plano dooms one to a life of economic and social mediocrity, regardless of whether or not this is true, it’s their perception.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2020, 03:57 PM
 
456 posts, read 239,921 times
Reputation: 313
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlecZTexan View Post
It's interesting that the median household income of Southlake is higher than that of Highland Park. However, I guess the average household income of Highland is the highest.
Correct $358,000 compared to $258,000
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2020, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Belton, Tx
3,887 posts, read 2,199,041 times
Reputation: 1783
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlecZTexan View Post
Yes. Highland Park is old money in Dallas. Here is an interesting description from https://thedallaswhisperer.wordpress...l-of-a-sudden/

Historically, over the last 100 years, moneyed people in Dallas have flowed north out of downtown, to the Park Cities, Preston Hollow, and into North Dallas. The middle class or more moderate income people moved east through Old East Dallas, to Lakewood, then east of the Lake into Lake Highlands and Far East Dallas. I should point out that for the first half of the past century this meant white moneyed people and white middle class. Minorities (both wealthy and not so wealthy) generally moved south into Oak Cliff, Pleasant Grove, and onto the suburbs like Desoto and Duncanville. Perhaps this is a slight oversimplification, but in broad terms it is true (except for the minorities part which has been changing for the past 30 or so years).

Well for the moneyed people of Dallas, where you live is a really big deal. It’s not just your zip code, not just whether you live in the Park Cities or not, and it’s not even which street you live on. It’s the street AND the address. There are some in Highland Park who talk about living in “Old” Highland Park as opposed to the newer sections. Where the new sections refer to the Henry Exall developed property from a hundred and twenty years ago and not the J.S. Armstrong property from a hundred years ago. These people take where you live as a mark of how wealthy and how cultured you are.

So starting in the late 90’s with the gen x-ers, you had more and more moneyed people in Dallas trying to buy fewer and fewer homes. While it is socially acceptable to live in the Park Cities, certain parts of North Dallas and even perhaps parts of Richardson, it’s social suicide to move all the way to Plano or, gasp Frisco. And in these moneyed circles a huge amount of business gets done at social events, like dinner parties or charity balls, so social suicide begets economic suicide. In the minds of old money Dallas, moving to Plano dooms one to a life of economic and social mediocrity, regardless of whether or not this is true, it’s their perception.
Very interesting. Thanks for explaining.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2020, 06:57 PM
 
5,829 posts, read 4,169,655 times
Reputation: 7645
Are there really this many people making $200k and buying million dollar houses? I couldn't imagine buying a house in Highland Park if my household income was only $200-300k. Maybe they have $25+ mil in the bank? Maybe the household income for buyers in recent years is higher?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2020, 07:38 PM
 
Location: West of Louisiana, East of New Mexico
2,916 posts, read 2,999,675 times
Reputation: 7041
Income sorta makes sense. To me, Southlake is the place a successful doctor/attorney moves to along with another high earning spouse. They may or may not have been born into money but their careers allow them a degree of financial freedom...at least enough freedom to buy a nice home, drive fancy cars and take great vacations.

The Highland Park family may have less "income" coming through their checking account bi-weekly, but likely have more actual wealth in terms of investments/passive income etc. This is the family where both parents could golf and go to the spa all day, every day and be fine. Wealthy versus upper middle class/low-end of rich. Old Money vs. New Money.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2020, 07:40 PM
 
113 posts, read 104,243 times
Reputation: 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wittgenstein's Ghost View Post
Are there really this many people making $200k and buying million dollar houses? I couldn't imagine buying a house in Highland Park if my household income was only $200-300k. Maybe they have $25+ mil in the bank? Maybe the household income for buyers in recent years is higher?
Nowadays those who purchased houses at Park cities have a family income >$300k as far as I know. In 2010-2013, some with ~$150-200k income bought houses at University Park for ~$500-900k - now the market values of those homes are $750k-1.6m.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Texas > Dallas

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:13 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top