Coronavirus in DFW - News & Discussion (Dallas: murder rate, lowest)

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by tmtex

What are the false facts they have been saying ?

You misquoted me, deliberately or not—
I did not use “false facts”
That phrase is an oxymoron
There are NO false facts….
A fact is true, indubitable, and proveable

A lie is neither a fact nor truthful…obviously.

You are being disingenuous asking to have the misinformation, propaganda, untruths coming from people like Rand Paul and Tucker Carlson repeated here
Won’t waste my time or stink up the air repeating any…

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by EonBlueSyZ

I'm not claiming zero deaths per days. I'm claiming there are 3 deaths in the last 7 days, exactly as the dashboard shows.

Filter to Dallas County, filter to last 7 days, you get 3 total deaths.

Either

a) you're lying,
b) the data is incorrect and further confirms why people don't trust what's being reported,
c) the definition of terms is not what a person would expect (e.g. it says new fatalities but it actually means a 7 day moving average or something else. I also looked at the definition page here: https://dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/DataDefinitions.aspx and it's exactly what I've said it is),
d) some combo of the above.

Edit: it's actually 8, not 3. The bars are so small / hard to read that I downloaded the data as a csv file and it confirmed 8.

My larger point remains, despite the fact the actual number is 5 larger.

Six Dallas County covid deaths yesterday FWIIW. The number will increase over the next few weeks at least.

[sanz7887]

I wish all the best to the naysayers... and the anti vaxers.... this is not your regular disease but a bioweapon designed to kill

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Your ongoing disdain for anyone right of you noted it is interesting that along the educational continuum the most vaccine hesitant group by far, Ph.D holders, hardly a FOX watching or Trump voting group. Another vaccine hesitant group.............black Americans again not Fox watchers nor Trumpers generally.

No but minorities have been taken advantage of and mistreated by those operating under a medical/science banner for generations. So their distrust comes from programs like the Tuskegee experiment, the cellular theft of huge medical/financial value from the family of Henrietta Lacks, and the current use of race norming by the NFL to penalize Black players who are seeking compensation for brain injury…

I haven’t seen any stats about PhD’s not being vaccinated or watching Fox so can’t say as to your statement

I think there are likely many people with advanced degrees that fall into both vaxxed and unvaxed. Certainly overwhelming majority of doctors are vaxed…based on stats I have seen
Having a degree doesn’t mean you can’t be the victim of propaganda or other belief systems.
Look at Sidney Powell for example…

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by loves2read

I haven’t seen any stats about PhD’s not being vaccinated or watching Fox so can’t say as to your statement

I think there are likely many people with advanced degrees that fall into both vaxxed and unvaxed. Certainly overwhelming majority of doctors are vaxed…based on stats I have seen
Having a degree doesn’t mean you can’t be the victim of propaganda or other belief systems.
Look at Sidney Powell for example…

The most hesitant to take the Vaccine are also the highest Educated.. Maybe they analyze and question more than most who blindly accepts what the Govt tells them to do.

According to a new paper by researchers from Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh....

The most vaccine-hesitant group of all? PhDs
A new study found that the most educated are the least likely to get jabbed

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-...p-of-all-phds/

But more surprising is the breakdown in vaccine hesitancy by level of education. It finds that the association between hesitancy and education level follows a U-shaped curve with the highest hesitancy among those least and most educated. People with a master’s degree had the least hesitancy, and the highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D.

What’s more, the paper found that in the first five months of 2021, the largest decrease in hesitancy was among the least educated — those with a high school education or less. Meanwhile, hesitancy held constant in the most educated group; by May, those with Ph.Ds were the most hesitant group.
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[EDS_]

Originally Posted by loves2read

No but minorities have been taken advantage of and mistreated by those operating under a medical/science banner for generations. So their distrust comes from programs like the Tuskegee experiment, the cellular theft of huge medical/financial value from the family of Henrietta Lacks, and the current use of race norming by the NFL to penalize Black players who are seeking compensation for brain injury…

I haven’t seen any stats about PhD’s not being vaccinated or watching Fox so can’t say as to your statement

I think there are likely many people with advanced degrees that fall into both vaxxed and unvaxed. Certainly overwhelming majority of doctors are vaxed…based on stats I have seen
Having a degree doesn’t mean you can’t be the victim of propaganda or other belief systems.
Look at Sidney Powell for example…

So it's OK to use past injustices to excuse current negative behaviors?


Just a logical point.....if you never watch Fox News how do you know it so awful? Fox News itself has been in the pro-vaccine camp for a good while.


Ph.Ds and vaccine holdouts........
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-...p-of-all-phds/

[Rakin]

Originally Posted by sanz7887

I wish all the best to the naysayers... and the anti vaxers.... this is not your regular disease but a bioweapon designed to kill

Not at a 97.5 recovery rate killing mostly elderly and other infirm.

Designed to kill you'd have a very bad version or Small Pox or Ebola or many other terrible disease that is highly contagious.

I would buy that this is round one of a worse pandemic sometime in the future.

[loves2read]

Originally Posted by Rakin

The most hesitant to take the Vaccine are also the highest Educated.. Maybe they analyze and question more than most who blindly accepts what the Govt tells them to do.

According to a new paper by researchers from Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh....

The most vaccine-hesitant group of all? PhDs
A new study found that the most educated are the least likely to get jabbed

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-...p-of-all-phds/

I read an article on that site about TX voting laws
Right wing propo regurgitated
Not novel-thinking as the site claims for its agenda

[4Movingeast]

Important to not lose sight of the fact that if the recovery rate number you are using simply means "not dead," ok, I'll grant you the numbers could make someone wonder what all the fuss is about. But I can think of 5 people whose lives are still affected by their bout with Covid even though they are "recovered," and I bet many of you can too.

1,2- a couple we know still has no taste and smell 6 mos after
3- super fit man in early 60s still struggling with fatigue, and brain fog (he was in the first wave of cases in Mar 2020)
4- husband's employee is dealing with cysts on his lungs and Dr says def related to Covid
5- SIL still dealing with breathing issues and has been on steroids which make her feel bad and gain weight

Also, husband's employee that expressed regret for not getting vaccine that was doing better is now in the hospital. 48 yr old female, described as "hearty woman" lives on a farm and grows her own veggies.

I don't say any of these things to scare anyone, and they are just anecdotes from someone typing on the internet. But when I see the numbers being touted I just want everyone to remember that recovered doesn't mean absence of long term health issues.

[EonBlueSyZ]

Originally Posted by EDS_

Six Dallas County covid deaths yesterday FWIIW. The number will increase over the next few weeks at least.

You have yet to post any sources for your numbers so I'll hold them with a grain of salt.

Assuming 6 people died yesterday in Dallas County during what is being reported as the most dangerous and deadly disease in my lifetime, that number is incredibly underwhelming. 30-60% of the European population died in 7 years during the Black Death. <=6 people died yesterday in Dallas from COVID.

What's the total for this year?
How many under 40 have died?
How many over 65 have died?
How many who died had underlying health concerns?
Etc.

Separately, answer me this:

How would one measure and gauge the increases in:

- obesity,
- depression,
- anxiety,
- alcoholism,
- drug use,
- hopelessness,
- gun violence,
- absenteeism from school,
- hesitance to engage anyone one doesn't know,
- children growing up without visual clues due to masks,
- job loss,
- business bankruptcies,
- inflation,
- skyrocketing real estate costs,
- laziness and apathy,
- relationship decay due to isolation,
- pornography use,
- coping and medicating with alternate realities like gaming, movies, tv.

Etc.

Then, having done all this, can you point me to any objective or absolute truth which tells me that, in light of above considerations, I - a healthy 36 year old male who has had COVID and barely had a fever -, should inject myself with an experimental vaccine which doesn't prevent me from becoming infected nor prevent me from transmitting the disease?

This is, without a doubt, the most over-blown issue of my lifetime.