04-26-2008, 10:35 AM
Location: Atlantic Highlands NJ/Ponte Vedra FL/NYC
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04-26-2008, 11:19 AM
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There's a binge drinking and drug problem at SMU that gets lots of attention. It's a nice school though, beautiful campus, rich part of town. Seems like there is plenty of ice hockey here, lots of travel teams, select teams.
04-26-2008, 02:18 PM
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In all due respect, Far North Dallas...I know there was a problem with a "couple" of people in regards to binge drinking and drug problems a while back which was in the paper ...but honestly I don't know that you can say it is "problem" at SMU. There are drinking and drug issues at every university. Even when I went to school there were these same issues. I just chose to be responsible and stay away from the drugs and alcohol. I think there are more positive things that we could mention rather than go directly to the negative.
04-26-2008, 02:39 PM
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04-26-2008, 03:42 PM
Location: Garland Texas
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SMU is probably the most elite of the Universities in the DFW/Denton area. I'm not sure if it has the same cache outside the region.
04-26-2008, 05:37 PM
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FarNorth Dallas I didn't mean for you to take offense. I'm not confrontational. Actually I don't think I even accused you of making something up. If it came out that way that was not my intention. I was just stating my thoughts based off my own readings just as you have done so with your link. I think sometimes we can take things out of context and make things seem bigger than they are. I'm not down playing the situation. There is a problem within society in general. I just don't think it is a "major" problem as SMU is a large campus with a lot of quality young adults attending. A problem for some, I agree. Again this is just an opinion not a post meant to offend anyone.
SMU is owned by the Methodist Church the last I heard...I'm Methodist and have several friends that are Methodist ministers. MaryS you have me curious now if this has changed in recent years. It very well may be the case. I think I will ask at church tomorrow. This is purely a inquisitive thing for me.
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04-26-2008, 06:59 PM
Location: Garland Texas
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FarNorth Dallas I didn't mean for you to take offense. I'm not confrontational. Actually I don't think I even accused you of making something up. If it came out that way that was not my intention. I was just stating my thoughts based off my own readings just as you have done so with your link. I think sometimes we can take things out of context and make things seem bigger than they are. I'm not down playing the situation. There is a problem within society in general. I just don't think it is a "major" problem as SMU is a large campus with a lot of quality young adults attending. A problem for some, I agree. Again this is just an opinion not a post meant to offend anyone.
SMU is owned by the Methodist Church the last I heard...I'm Methodist and have several friends that are Methodist ministers. MaryS you have me curious now if this has changed in recent years. It very well may be the case. I think I will ask at church tomorrow. This is purely a inquisitive thing for me.
I actually did quite a bit of research on the school about a year an half ago. I do believe they are owned by the Methodist church, but the school is very secular.
There has been the uproar from faculty over the future Bush Library. Sometime not to long ago they were going to have some kind of creationist or religious speaker, and again there was a lot of complaining.
I just pulled up my citations from my research. It was in a book called "The Insiders Guide To College" 32nd editions.
My point is that there aren't a lot of religious overtones at SMU.
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04-26-2008, 07:38 PM
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Thanks MaryS80...this makes sense. I think you may be right in regards to not a lot of religious overtones...especially not compared to some other schools that are private Christian schools.
The Methodist church in general is not like other religions either. Within the church you can find conservative, liberal, mixed consertative/liberal, etc. I'm Methodist but come by way of a Disciple of Christ and Baptist parentage. I know my parents always had a hard time with some of the Methodist ways, but our church while growing up was family minded and met enough of my parent's ways that we became members.
So, I guess this would make sense that SMU is secular. You find it within the Methodist churches, too. Hope this makes sense.
04-26-2008, 08:12 PM
Location: la hacienda
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There are 4 or 5 Dr Pepper Star Centers in the area that have games your son could ref at - both recreational and travel. The closest ones to SMU would be the one in E. Plano or the one in Farmer's Branch.
Welcome to the Dr Pepper StarCenter
There is also another rink in Plano, that has one or two ice rinks, that is a little further
Plano Sports Authority
There is also a practice rink in Richardson - he might be able to find a team to play on there
IceTrainingCenter Richardson, TX (972)680-7825
There is also a rink in Addison -
Addison Square Garden
I've also heard of a rink in the Valley View area. This should get him started!
I'm sure he's aware of the Dallas Stars, but there is also a minor league team that plays at the Dr Pepper Star Center in Frisco called The Tornadoes
Official Website of The Texas Tornado - North American Hockey League - Frisco, TX
04-26-2008, 09:31 PM
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that article about the SMU female student who was found dead is not an accurate indication of the average student at SMU--that girl had some severe emotional issues and problems that were not addressed -- while the manner of her death is very sad I don't think you can point to her being a student at SMU and participating in frat/soc party for her death...
this link is to article about the SMU student senate's response to the 3 student deaths last year
SMU Student Senate OKs campus pub idea | WFAA.com | Local News: TV (http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/tv/stories/DN-smupub_19met.ART.State.Edition1.46699b0.html - broken link)
but to the OP--SMU has about a 50-50 split of TX and out of state students--possible since the tuition is the same for residents and non, unlike most state schools. You would think that would mean some ethnic diversity but most of that comes from foreign students--probably about 12% of students are non US citizens...
there are fewer than 10% AA students (and I bet that most of them are athletic vs academic scholarship winners)
SMU is a school that has many children of wealthy people as students--it is definitely a frat/old boy network type of school--while it does have scholarship students and gets lots of alumni donations to fund scholarships and programs--there is a very distinct blue-blood aura--
while the graduate school of theology and business might be more working class and scholarship students--there are a lot of legacy students at SMU undergrads from what I understand
will your son be comfortable being around students who have a very high level of discretionary spending and are into the Greek way of life?
the school's info says that 75% f students get some type of scholarship assistance or financial aid --but that oculd just mean loans. I think a lot of scholarships are for athletes--male and female---
there are good teachers and students who go there for the academics--but it is kind of a layerd environment--
check out this link to survey done by supposedly SMU students
Southern Methodist University (StudentsReview) - College Reviews Student Opinion and Undergraduate College Ranking and Comments
note how many used snooty/closed-minded/arrogant to describe SMU students
and this link to the SMU student paper with its comments about why SMU students leave after their first year--I don't think it is worth paying that much to get a sub-par education...
SMU losing its best students - News
and yes--it was the students who objected to having the Bush Library housed at SMU
but notice that the board did not care and went ahead---so that shows how responsive to its student body and aware of the world and our president's role in it-- it is...not very--bunch of old rich friends of Bush senior who wanted to give his boy a home...
plus some pretty big contributors as well--and Laura B went here which shows HER bloodlines as well....
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People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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SMU is owned by the Methodist Church the last I heard...I'm Methodist and have several friends that are Methodist ministers. MaryS you have me curious now if this has changed in recent years. It very well may be the case. I think I will ask at church tomorrow. This is purely a inquisitive thing for me. 
