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Old 05-05-2008, 05:19 PM
 
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Hello all,

I've been reading the posts on this board and first of all I'd like to thank you all very much - you've helped me tremendously. It's in reading the posts that I've learned about Oak Lawn and North Oak Cliff.

I'm a 50 year old single gay man considering moving to the metroplex. I have a great job opportunity in Irving, but I think I'd rather live in Oak Lawn or North Oak Cliff. I prefer living in a more urban area because when I've lived in the suburbs before I've felt kind of like a "duck out of water."

I will be renting at first and then I hope to be able to buy. I've always been a renter but the time has come to settle down. When it comes time to buy, I'm looking at the $200,000 price point. I'm not sure whether I'll get a condo, town home, or house.

That being said, I need your help deciding between Oak Lawn, Oak Cliff, and any other neighborhood that I might be comfortable in. I've lived in Chicago, New York, Tampa, San Diego, and Denver (moved for work each time). I'll be moving to DFW from Chicago, where I now live.

It's the "duck out of water" feeling that I'm hoping to avoid. The suburbs have their charms, but I've always felt kind of like the only gay man for miles when I've lived in the suburbs. I like to be able to see gay people around me, walking, talking, hanging out, that kind of thing. It makes me feel more "normal" as it were.

I don't go to bars much, so It's that day to day "gayness" that I need. At the coffee shop, at the grocery store, in the neighborhood. I don't need to live in a ghetto, I just need to feel like I'm safe and accepted.

I'd like some feedback. Where do you think I'd be most comfortable given those parameters? I appreciate your help. I realize that I'm asking a more "touchy feely" kind of a question rather than the more "nuts and bolts" kind of questions that are common, but feeling comfortable in my environment is very important to me, and I suspect it is for most of you as well.

Thanks again!

John
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:45 PM
 
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I like to be able to see gay people around me, walking, talking, hanging out, that kind of thing. It makes me feel more "normal" as it were.
Um. DFW in general isn't a walking/hanging out kind of metro. People tend to drive everywhere.

Judging by bumper stickers and couples in restaurants, there are a lot of LGBT folks in the Oak Lawn, North Oak Cliff, Uptown area. The areas that I am familiar with the most (Garland Firewheel, Lake Highlands close to White Rock Lake), shows the typical divide where the suburban Firewheel isn't very gay but here in LH, I know three gay households within a 1/4 mile radius of my house. But I wouldn't recommend LH for someone with a job in Irving (too far away).
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Old 05-05-2008, 05:48 PM
 
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I would say Oak Lawn/Uptown fits your bill and is closer to Irving. Oak Cliff is beautiful but from what I understand it is mostly couples in single family homes -- someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
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I would say Oak Lawn/Uptown fits your bill and is closer to Irving. Oak Cliff is beautiful but from what I understand it is mostly couples in single family homes -- someone correct me if I am wrong.
I agree with you. Also uptown you have more areas that walkable such as West Village/Knox Henderson.

Naima
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:59 PM
 
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I think Uptown would be a good fit but I am not sure what's the average age of the folks who live there. North Oak Cliff would be more of a couple scene although there are quite a few places to hang out. I have no idea why Grand Prairie. It's not a place most people would hangout and even less gays would want to hang out there. It's much more of a family scene. Oaklawn would also be a great fit.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Dallas: Oak Cliff
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I would say Oak Lawn/Uptown fits your bill and is closer to Irving. Oak Cliff is beautiful but from what I understand it is mostly couples in single family homes -- someone correct me if I am wrong.
There are actually tons of gays in single family homes in Oak Cliff mixed in with the straight couples. Look in Beckley Club, Elmwood, Ravinia Heights, El Tivoli Place, Hampton Hills, and Winnetka Heights. In Winnetka you will be challenged to find anything in good condition for less than 200,000 but you can still find some rehab opportunities.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:15 AM
 
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I lived in Irving and worked at 35 and Oaklawn, very doable commute. Traffic was usually a bit heavier on 35 going the other way, but there are plenty of side streets available.

As for 'day to day gayness', I'm not sure I've seen that anywhere. There are rainbow stickers and couples, but quite honestly, someone always had to point it out to me. I do like the area, for the most part, though. A little less 'chain store' than most of the suburbs.

Welcome to Texas!
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:44 AM
 
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You all are awesome, what a wealth of information! I appreciate your help.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:29 AM
 
Location: White Rock Valley - Dallas
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Hollywood/Santa Monica. But getting to Irving would be a bit of a hassle.

Hollywood/Santa Monica Neighborhood Association
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:48 AM
 
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Well if you are going to mention East Dallas neighborhoods I would also try Cochran Heights (Knox-Henderson)- Charles Steven Dilbeck-designed storybook homes, then Vickery Place and Junius Heights (mostly Craftsman Bungalows and some Tudors like Hollywood Heights). -- the Lakewood Theater hosts gay bingo once a month (or did) - I've never been but I've heard it's fun.
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