Would you live in DFW if money were not a concern? (Dallas: dryer, place)

[fleaflicker]

I'm on the opposite side. My job is in Dallas and money is still a concern. I'm in tech field. There are better tech companies for me to work for in other cities but I can't because I prefer to stay here. The only reason I would move somewhere, or move back to Bay Area, is when I must have a new job.

I travel enough and will continue to enjoy different cities, but there's no need for me to move to have a better life.

[Johnhw2]

Originally Posted by TX Rover

That makes sense. Outside of a few days a year, I’m with you in the golf thing! I’m about 3 miles down Parker from you so I get all the conveniences that Plano can deliver, but I’m probably about 20 years behind you and definitely not a homebody - which is where this area starts wearing on me.

11 years ago when we moved up here I was less a homebody. I found plenty of thing to do near me but rarely went to Dallas for anything but specialist for my wife. Now we are both homebodies and this area is ideal for me. Everything I need is close and I get in early and out before there is a crowd. Suits me fine. The Medical is top notch here too. WE had great medical in Houston too but must confess our suite of Docs heere are better overall than those we saw in Houston.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by Sunbather

As someone who has spent a lot of time engineering facilities with tight humidity contro requirements, I still take issue with the minority of people who make this claim. LowER than other areas? Never have I worked with another engineer in my field who considered DFW 'low humidity'.

This image is from a similar discussion a few years ago, so the cities I included were relevant to that specific discussion but it serves to illustrate a similar point. Look at where Atlanta, Houston, NOLA, Charleston fall and compare to DFW. Then compare to ACTUAL low humidity places. One's perception that Dallas is 'low humidity' isn't really supported by climactic data.

I'm also a Dallas transplant, who has spent my entire life living on the east coast before moving here 6 years ago: New York (upstate and city), NC, SC, GA. Humidity in DFW is quite manageable, but can't think of any scenario I would consider it 'low'.

Low and high are relative terms. It is low compared to everything to the east of here.

[Sunbather]

Originally Posted by hbdwihdh378y9

Low and high are relative terms. It is low compared to everything to the east of here.

This is so incredibly far off and just straight up incorrect that I almost don't feel like responding. But I'll provide the following.

By anyone who works with climate or works in engineering involving temperature/humidity control, Dallas is classified as Warm-Humid. In fact, the most simplistic view of US climate zones will demonstrate this:



At a high level, the climate zones are used to classify regions by both temperature (numbers) and humidity (letters). The US is essentially into Moist/Wet(A), Dry(B), and a minority exception for Marine climates (C).

As you can see, the line dividing Wet and Dry (A/B) is west of Dallas. In fact, Dallas is a 3A climate - the same climate band as most of the Southeast including all of SC, half of NC, most of GA, almost all of Alabama and Mississippi, most of Louisiana, etc. Again, climate is not simply east/west or latitude/longitude, but overall pressure and weather patterns.

Let's dig a little further. Within the 'A' region, they further subdivide the moist/wet climates into the 'Warm-Humid' category. Look for the red line within the Brown climate zone 3A (since all of 1A and 2A are humid). This is the climate that 95% of Americans are referring to when they say 'humid'. (the other 5% being professional in related engineering/research industries who use more specific descriptors such as the map above).

What do you see in the Warm-Humid region of the US? That's right, Dallas. Along with New Orleans, Houston, Charleston Wilmington, etc. Notice the 'bump' in the red line? Again, climate doesn't happen on a grid. It is driven by weather patterns.

Yes, the absolute most 'humid' cities in the US (in 1A and 2A) edge out a place like Dallas. But the climate region Dallas is a part of is still more humid than the majority of the country and is classified as such. This is proven by climate data and it's proven by engineering approaches appropriate for the Dallas region.

You can believe something different if you want to, but it's not backed by data or industry definitions/standards.

Your logic seems to be this:

If we ranked 15 sports teams from 1st to 15th, you are arguing that the 3rd ranked team is a 'low' ranking team, relative to #1 and #2. Whereas most people would consider the 3rd ranking team a high ranked team.

[Sunbather]

Edit: I'll further clarify(since I didn't make it clear in my first post) that Miami is sub-classified as 'very hot-humid' and 2A is sub-classified as 'hot-humid'. And then coming behind those 2 in 3rd is the sub-classification of 3A, south of the red line. But all of these are part of the warm and humid region of the US.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by Sunbather

This is so incredibly far off and just straight up incorrect that I almost don't feel like responding. But I'll provide the following.

No, it is correct.

[hbdwihdh378y9]

Originally Posted by Sunbather

If we ranked 15 sports teams from 1st to 15th, you are arguing that the 3rd ranked team is a 'low' ranking team, relative to #1 and #2. Whereas most people would consider the 3rd ranking team a high ranked team.

No. If a place is drier than the places where most people live, then it is dry within that frame of reference. To most people in the US, Dallas is dry compared to where they live.

Let's dig a little further. Within the 'A' region, they further subdivide the moist/wet climates into the 'Warm-Humid' category. Look for the red line within the Brown climate zone 3A (since all of 1A and 2A are humid). This is the climate that 95% of Americans are referring to when they say 'humid'.

Preposterous. For instance, everyone family with the city considers Washington, D.C., to be humid even though it's outside the zone you're talking about.

[Sunbather]

Originally Posted by hbdwihdh378y9

No. If a place is drier than the places where most people live, then it is dry within that frame of reference. To most people in the US, Dallas is dry compared to where they live.
Preposterous. For instance, everyone family with the city considers Washington, D.C., to be humid even though it's outside the zone you're talking about.

You're stuck talking about what people 'think' or 'consider' because you don't have actual data won't support you.

Luckily we actually measure things like dew point, absolutely humidity, and relative humidity and trend them over decades so we don't have to rely on individuals' perceptions.

PS I spend a big portion of my time in Washington, DC and Ashburn, VA for work. Peak humidity levels in DC are definitely humid, but Dallas edges it out statistically, but barely. Very similar summer levels, but they differ more in the cooler months. (DC is still considered humid, just mixed-humid)

[Wittgenstein's Ghost]

I am not going to bother looking up data, but I can't imagine someone thinking Dallas had a truly dry climate. I've lived in southeast Missouri (quite humid) and Colorado (quite dry). My parents live in Florida (very humid), and I go to Scottsdale every winter (very dry). I've been to Hong Kong during the summer (the most insanely humid place I can imagine), and I once lived for three months in India very near Cherrapunji, which is the rainiest place on Earth (also very, very humid).

Dallas has always seemed moderately humid to me. I would never have described it as dry, but it was noticeably less humid than seriously humid places.

[jcp123]

Eh, it wouldn’t be my first choice, but it’s not lacking. Money no object, I’m definitely staying somewhere west of the Mississippi River. I’m more of a desert/dry guy, so I’d think about LA or San Diego, but barring that for whatever reason, Dallas might just be my next step.