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Old 11-20-2008, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The managed lanes on the inside? Where the HOV lanes are now?
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:20 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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The managed lanes on the inside? Where the HOV lanes are now?
Yes. It'll basically be a redo of what they have now. They'll phase things in section by section. The entire freeway plan will be wider. From the looks of things, the HOV concept, as it were, will be redefined just a bit. Plus, the project is expected to be constructed quicker than before. Just not too quick.
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Old 11-21-2008, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Correct me someone if I am wrong, but I believe that the toll autority and the state can only make state roads toll roads. The powers that be here in TX do not have the authority to toll US highways or Interstate highways. Or that is what I read in the past when the debate to toll 121 was going on.

Maybe since only part of 35 will be tolled and some lanes free is a way around this. It doesn't irk me so much that the tolls are there to get the highways built more quickly, but that the moneys are going to fund roads in other areas. Since I don't have many options but to use 121 and the Dallas Tollway, this form of Robin Hood redistribution irks me. So what if some of my Collin County neighbors are wealthy. I'm just scraping by.
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Right, Saintmarks? I know what you mean. As it is, it costs me at least $10 in gas and tolls to drive back and forth from work. When gas prices were in the $4 range, it was closer to $20.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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Right, Saintmarks? I know what you mean. As it is, it costs me at least $10 in gas and tolls to drive back and forth from work. When gas prices were in the $4 range, it was closer to $20.
The ironic thing is that the gas tax does the same friggin thing the highway "leasing" does and it does it for pennies on the dollar in comparison. If legislators would be honest and candid about for-profit toll roads people would realize they're getting screwed.
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Old 11-21-2008, 08:52 AM
 
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I wonder is this the 'six football field wide highway'that you guys are talking about?
I remember a few months back they were in talks of starting construction on it.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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I wonder is this the 'six football field wide highway'that you guys are talking about?
I remember a few months back they were in talks of starting construction on it.
No. That'd be the Trans-Texas Cashregister. The private for-profit toll road system that will eventually be part of the moronic NAFTA Superhighway - a road that will insidiously be used to put American truck drivers and stevedores out of work.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Far North Dallas. Like FAR!
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Is it sad that I actually miss Dallas traffic? NOBODY out here on Oahu knows how to drive! I'm going 70 down the interstate because, you know...if you don't in Dallas, you'll pretty much be run over, and here I'm just flying by people who are going 50. And if you dare to honk at anyone, even if it's just to let them know the light turned green while they're busy texting someone- they get so mad. And rush hour out here makes 635 look like NASCAR. Someone go 80 down the Tollway and tell me about it!
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:58 AM
 
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I suggest counties re-zone for more businesses, apartments and condos in the outlying areas. That way there can be more high rise business building so companies don't have to go to city centers to do business. And the apartments and condos will allow people to re-locate closer to their work.

Add in some large parks and company picnics will be better than ever.

I can just see Flower Mound, Plano, Frisco, et al, becoming the slums those residents ran from in the inner cities.
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