01-09-2009, 08:01 AM
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Thinking about moving to Dallas and are narrowing down our search to perhaps the above neighborhoods. Would like to be near the side of the city more convenient to Plano (have no idea of the geography!
) We're empty-nesters, with our 2 college kids coming home for summers and would love a safe neighborhood near the city walkable to stores, restaurants, tennis?, & a fitness center, if possible. Budget is about $600,000 and we're not the "McMansion" types-- would rather have a great location, and don't need to worry about school districts. Have heard about brownstones in Knox-Henderson that sound nice...any thoughts on these or these areas? Thanks in advance!
01-09-2009, 10:03 AM
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Knox-Henderson, Uptown, and Oak Lawn are the ares that come to mind.
01-09-2009, 10:11 AM
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Knox-Henderson....... you can walk to CHUY'S
Lots of people out walking in this area that live there. Fun area w/ shops and good restaurants. Nice "brownstones" as well and smaller complexes of townhomes/condos/duplexes.
Park Cities (Highland Park & University Park) - on your budget your going to be on the low end of housing in this area. Might be a small older bungalow or duplex. May or may not have been updated. Be forewarned that Mockingbird can and is always (it seems) under construction and can be a HUGE MESS!
Preston Hollow - the home of "W" in a few weeks once he leaves DC. Very nice and sought after area. Has been for decades. Home to Ross Perot, Tom Hicks and several other notables. LOVE this area more than the Park Cities.
I'd also say look just outside of the Preston Hollow area in the Disney street areas and along and off of Royal Lane from Marsh Ln on the west all the way over to 75/Central on the east. Nice homes in a great area. Another sought after area as well. Also anything around these private schools: Hockaday, Ursiline, St. Marks, Jesuit. Well kept sought after areas.
01-09-2009, 02:54 PM
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Thanks for your posts! I'll print out the info. and keep it in my file. Appreciate your time!
01-09-2009, 03:32 PM
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Knox-Henderson and Uptown are really the only places that you can consider walkable to the ammenities that you pointed out.
Oak Lawn is good too. I go there all the time. How can u describe OL? Its starting to become cool. You can find a very wide range on people on the streets (cool for me but not for most, I love diversity). In a couple of years OL will be as nice as Uptown. Right now is a bit rough on the edges.
Preston Hollow and ParkCities are very urban and safe neighborhoods but not walkable to most things.
Your choices are the first two neighborhoods. You can walk to the gymn, grocery store, take the train, ride bikes on Katy trail, and be in the middle of a nice neighborhood. Best example of urbanism in Dallas.
Welcome to Dallas. Are you George and Laura Bush????!!!
01-09-2009, 07:15 PM
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For Knox area check the streets Buena Vista, Travis, Cole and McKinney from Haskell north. This runs from Uptown to Knox where they tend to run out of street. There's bunches of townhomes back there. There's some cool looking apartments along Abbott, between Fitzhugh and Knox. Old and probly not what you're looking for. And yeah, plenty of shopping and restaurants.
Henderson is on the other side of 75 and I'm not sure I'd do a lot of walking around there. There is random construction of nice townhomes but not as liveable as OakLawn, Uptown, Knox.
You might check north Oak Lawn (the part between Lemmon and Highland Park). The area south of Lemmon is under the Love Field glide path so conversations are not always continuous. There's lots of new construction in north OakLawn. I highly recommend Hawthorne, Prescott and Herschel streets, from Preston (Oak Lawn Blvd) to Bowser. There's a Whole Foods at Lomo Alto and Lemmon and a walkable neighborhood. Also lots of townhome construction in the Lomo Alto area. This is a mature area, you're likely to find it attractive.
Oak Lawn affords you easy access to the North Toll Way... to Plano.
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01-09-2009, 09:44 PM
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Knox-Henderson and Uptown are really the only places that you can consider walkable to the ammenities that you pointed out.
Oak Lawn is good too. I go there all the time. How can u describe OL? Its starting to become cool. You can find a very wide range on people on the streets (cool for me but not for most, I love diversity). In a couple of years OL will be as nice as Uptown. Right now is a bit rough on the edges.
Preston Hollow and ParkCities are very urban and safe neighborhoods but not walkable to most things.
Your choices are the first two neighborhoods. You can walk to the gymn, grocery store, take the train, ride bikes on Katy trail, and be in the middle of a nice neighborhood. Best example of urbanism in Dallas.
Welcome to Dallas. Are you George and Laura Bush????!!!
I agree with all the above. There are several new properties under construction (townhomes) in the Knox-Henderson/Uptown area. The best ones will have HOA of about 250 a month. The brownstones are beautiful and most of them have the third floor terrace for BBQs or sunbathing or whatever and enjoying a great view of downtown.
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01-10-2009, 10:03 AM
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I am so excited to check out all the areas all of you mentioned above! I wish I could fly down there right this minute, but have to wait to Feb. 7. It's about 22 degrees here in OH right now and we're snowed in; in the midst of a heavy storm. With a heating bill of $816 last month, Dallas is looking better all the time...
01-10-2009, 10:10 AM
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Well, it is cold here as well this morning. Woke up to 30-something degree weather with a high of 45 for the day expected. Next Thursday is supposed to be even colder........... YUCK! But we are not snowed in and the sun is shinning thru the clouds. I can handle the cold as long as I have sunshine.
01-12-2009, 09:55 AM
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I would also check out all of the new high-rises that were recently constructed. I think there were around 10 or so completed in the last couple of years, and I would think you could get a good deal if there are units still for sale, especially for your budget. They are scattered throughout uptown.
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Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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