If you're down-to-earth, non-yuppie, 30s and single, THEN what is the best area to live? (Portland: college, cost)

[jobert]

People who move from here to Portland generally have a huge disdain for Dallas even when they've lived here their entire lives - I have seen in my experience. People I've known who have made this move tended to be extremely active and liberal to the point of being radical. They've sworn they will never come back to N. Texas and I don't blame them as there is little or no room here for that kind of creature here. The most extreme liberals I have seen in Texas have been here in Austin. Two guys from here were sentenced for planning to pipe bomb the GOP convention last year. You haven't seen that level of extremism in Dallas since 63. The liberal people I have seen in Dallas and Houston I would tend to perceive as "well-rounded people"

[theloneranger]

Originally Posted by Pfhtex

But isn't that a "scene" as well?

That is what frustrated me so much about living in Dallas. You had the untucked blue-striped dress shirt crowd infecting everything, so that outposts had to be created, wherein indigenous inhabitants so rightfully hated those d!cks that it, in and of itself, therefore became a scene wherein you better look the part of not looking the part.

This is why I moved to Portland last week. So far, incredible. The absence of doosh (sic) is so relaxing.

Man, I do not miss Dallas. Good luck!!

Have fun freezing from October to March!
And getting rained on almost every day!

And Portland is equally as trendy and has equally as many of the "untucked blue-striped dress shirt crowd," if not more. It's a very cosmopolitan, liberal town and that tends to lend itself to the sort of "scene" you're looking to avoid.

Real Dallasites are rarely douchey...it's the transplants that will get ya (not that there aren't really cool transplants here as well).

[theloneranger]

Originally Posted by BigDGeek

It can be difficult to escape the popped collar crowd here!

Really? I'm not old enough for the Dallas bar scene yet but I would never have imagined this to be the case--it just isn't done in Dallas for the most part from everyone I know. Is this the transplant/Plano crowd you're talking about? Because I really can't think of any Dallasites I know that would "pop thier coller" without trying to make fun of someone.

[lh_newbie]

Please don't tell me that popped collars are in again. I remember that from high school. Fashion is so cyclical. Is big hair in again, too?

[Lakewooder]

Hey I was at SMU during the Preppy Handbook days and nobody would do that -- ok well there was one guy..

[theloneranger]

Originally Posted by lh_newbie

Please don't tell me that popped collars are in again. I remember that from high school. Fashion is so cyclical. Is big hair in again, too?

This is Dallas...big hair has always been in.

[SmartGXL]

Originally Posted by lh_newbie

Please don't tell me that popped collars are in again. I remember that from high school. Fashion is so cyclical. Is big hair in again, too?

Actually, anything from the 1980's is pretty much in style these days, including popped collars (at least here in Chicago, anyway), and has been for at least the past 5 or 6 years.

In addition, it can be said that the fashion "trend" now is ANYTHING retro, but done in a reinterpreted way.

[jobert]

Originally Posted by theloneranger

This is Dallas...big hair has always been in.

refer exhibit 'A': West Plano circa 1987

[theloneranger]

Originally Posted by jobert

refer exhibit 'A': West Plano circa 1987

This is the key part of that post.

[theloneranger]

Originally Posted by SmartGXL

Actually, anything from the 1980's is pretty much in style these days, including popped collars (at least here in Chicago, anyway), and has been for at least the past 5 or 6 years.

In addition, it can be said that the fashion "trend" now is ANYTHING retro, but done in a reinterpreted way.

Popped collars are a huge faux pas in my social scene. I associate popped collars with the trying to be preppy crowd who think that Abercrombie and Hollister are preppy and what wealthy people wear, or the sort of people who wear two Polos at once with cargo shorts and pop both the collars.

You won't often see someone who's in a Brooks Brothers or Polo polo with khaki shorts or slacks or Wranglers sporting a popped collar, at least not in the South. The 80s are in, but there's a limit.