07-01-2009, 11:52 AM
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The West Allen Vs. East Allen is probably a hold over from East Plano vs. West Plano. For the West vs East Plano debate East Plano is a bit more rundown than West Plano and has worse schools plus more drug problems. The difference in Allen is not as pronounced as it is in Plano. East Allen is actually a little more rural and less congested IMHO than West Allen with some neighborhoods closer to Parker that have huge lots. West Allen has some newer flashier neighborhoods like Suncreek and the new Shopping center and Montgomery farms at Bethany and 75, but that is just off 75 so is really equidistant between East and West Allen.
07-01-2009, 12:02 PM
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I live in Plano technically but it might as well be Allen. I live off Alma near Hedgcoxe. I love Allen. The neighborhoods off Bethany just west of 75 are really nice. You shouldnt worry about east or west Allen. Just look at homes and if you like it then buy it. It doesnt matter what side its on. All of Allen is really nice. I think people get way to picky about certain builders. Its kind of like the Chevy vs Ford debate. One person will love on builder while the next person hates them. Unless your paying big bucks for a custom home all your run of the mill builders will be pretty much the same.
07-01-2009, 02:16 PM
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I think people get way to picky about certain builders. Its kind of like the Chevy vs Ford debate. One person will love on builder while the next person hates them. Unless your paying big bucks for a custom home all your run of the mill builders will be pretty much the same.
No, there are some builders to stay clear away from. There ARE differences. I've built enough homes, been in enough of them worked in the industry enough to know. They are not all the same. Not even close. Two right off the bat that I'd stay away from are D.R. Horton (worked for them) and Grand. They DO cut corners. Just take a look at some of these builders builtout subdivisions and how the homes/yards are cared for vs homes by Drees (the OP mentioned Drees in a prior post). HUGE difference. One can get pretty good not quite custom home builds with Drees and other equivalent builders whereas the others are cutting corners. Another thing to look at in developments by these builders are how many are rentals, foreclosures and how long houses linger on the market in each area.
07-01-2009, 02:26 PM
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My sister and her husband (educated, childless professionals) live in East Allen and I can assure you it is not overrun with thugs and gangsters.
She's in a nice subdivision close to a pretty park, and Krogers is 3 minutes away. The proximity to 75 is a real plus. You certainly can get more home for the $ there.
I agree with the earlier post in that all the east/west debate carried over from Plano. I think the only negative is the public's perception that west is somehow better, which could affect re-sale values.
07-01-2009, 03:43 PM
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Any builders suggestion for 250-300 range? I am looking for a 4 bed house.
07-01-2009, 09:00 PM
Location: North Texas
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Thanks for the reply, DFW expert. I wonder why is that west Allen neighborhoods are considered more prestigious and have such a big disparity in housing price? I'm really tempted to go for a "bigger house for my money" but I'd have to convince my husband that east Allen is just as good.
Some parts of east Allen are nice but other parts are very hit or miss. It reminds me of what some parts of Garland looked like 20 years ago and those same parts are in a steep decline now. I would be cautious about buying in east Allen anywhere around Bethany or McDermott/Main but north of there seems to be nicer.
I think over time the west side of Allen will hold its value better.
07-01-2009, 11:14 PM
Location: Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas
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Any builders suggestion for 250-300 range? I am looking for a 4 bed house.
Where are you wanting to buy a house? Allen?
Naima
07-02-2009, 08:57 AM
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250-300k Range...
07-02-2009, 09:13 AM
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Not sure if you are interested in Town Homes but*
07-02-2009, 06:39 PM
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No, there are some builders to stay clear away from. There ARE differences. I've built enough homes, been in enough of them worked in the industry enough to know. They are not all the same. Not even close. Two right off the bat that I'd stay away from are D.R. Horton (worked for them) and Grand. They DO cut corners. Just take a look at some of these builders builtout subdivisions and how the homes/yards are cared for vs homes by Drees (the OP mentioned Drees in a prior post). HUGE difference. One can get pretty good not quite custom home builds with Drees and other equivalent builders whereas the others are cutting corners. Another thing to look at in developments by these builders are how many are rentals, foreclosures and how long houses linger on the market in each area.
Momof2dfw, I've heard a lot about lower-quality builders "cutting corners" and so we have stayed away from some builders based on reputation but this issue was never clear to me. What is meant exactly when builders "cut corners?" That's such a vague yet scary concept for me. Are the "corners" minor details like the sink being overmount vs. undermount, cheaper fixtures or are they actually bigger issues that will come up years down the road like structural/foundation issues? I actually fell in love with Grand homes but my hubby will not even consider them. Thanks!
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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She's in a nice subdivision close to a pretty park, and Krogers is 3 minutes away. The proximity to 75 is a real plus. You certainly can get more home for the $ there.
