View Poll Results: H1N1 shot for you child under 18?
Yes
4 40.00%
No
6 60.00%
11-11-2009, 10:25 AM
Location: North Texas
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Who here in the Dallas Metro has vaccinated their child for the H1N1? I am back a forth with this. I have a fifteen year old daughter, with mild asthma.
11-11-2009, 10:26 AM
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No, my 15-year-old son is not getting it.
11-11-2009, 10:38 AM
Location: The Big D
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I have a 10 year old with asthma. Right now her specialist is the ONLY doctor she sees that has the vaccine. The only thing is the times that are available to take her to get it. Then I'm not real sure on it myself. She DOES get the seasonal flu vaccine as we all do in our family. The less she is exposed to it the lower her chances of getting it. We already got that vaccine.
11-11-2009, 10:52 AM
Location: Greenwood Village, Colorado
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I wouldn't recommend it for numerous reasons.
But the fact is it has mutated and STILL isn't a MSM news outlet, RussiaToday has a video report. Some interesting highlights: Roughly every third citizen there wears a protective mask. On Sunday, the country’s leadership called on other countries to help Ukraine in the fight against the epidemic, as it has now been classed as a
threat to national security . Prime-Minister Timoshenko ...swindlers in privately-owned pharmacies are selling it to people at ten times the price,” she told journalists on Friday. Over a hundred have died since the outbreak of the virus last week.
Ukraine in panic over swine flu - RT Top Stories
reports on the mutated strain
Swine Flu: World Health Organisation Monitoring Epidemic In Ukraine Amid Fears Virus Has Mutated | World News | Sky News
There are rumours that Baxter pharma purposly sent out some contaminated vaccines, a microbiologist from israel tried to expose them. There is video footage of him being tear gassed 2 weeks right before the outbreak happened in the Ukraine. There is also a Spanish nun who speaks out about this.
11-11-2009, 10:59 AM
Location: North Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
momof2dfw
I have a 10 year old with asthma. Right now her specialist is the ONLY doctor she sees that has the vaccine. The only thing is the times that are available to take her to get it. Then I'm not real sure on it myself. She DOES get the seasonal flu vaccine as we all do in our family. The less she is exposed to it the lower her chances of getting it. We already got that vaccine.
Our doctor has the shots, but limiting to high risk and child. I am torn. As a mother I want to protect her, but how by giving her the shot or by not giving her the shot.
11-11-2009, 11:35 AM
Location: Greenwood Village, Colorado
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There's always
The main danger is the adjuvant squalene. It hypes the immune system.
If you have squalene, the chance's increase a cytokine storm enhanced, and then the flu can be described as hemorrhagic. This means your soft organs are attacked - and due to the avian flu's operating temperature, this means your lungs.
If you have the squalene - chances are the flu will turn hemorrhagic, if it does, chances are it will be fatal.
The flu in Ukraine at the moment appears to have a high incidence of hemorrhagic results, I would recommend NOT getting a shot with squalene in it.
Better option is pneumonia vaccination followed with plenty of sunlight and citrus, vit D and C.
11-11-2009, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
LQQKOUT
Who here in the Dallas Metro has vaccinated their child for the H1N1? I am back a forth with this. I have a fifteen year old daughter, with mild asthma.
Voted no but I'm torn. As of now we wouldn't be able to get it at her ped's office anyways so that takes it out of my hands. I know several kids who have had H1N1 and were (and are) fine. In fact it lasted only for 3 or 4 days, as opposed to the "regular" seasonal flu, which can knock you out for a week or more.
11-11-2009, 12:33 PM
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Cupcake, I remember you got very sick with it. What about your family? Was it like what I'm hearing from friends whose kids were fine after a few days?
11-11-2009, 01:44 PM
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People need to start reading the actual facts about this Vaccine before getting too skeptical.
The question, as far as I can see, when it comes to whether or not you should get it, should be about whether or not it's needed. If you usually take the seasonal flu vaccine, because of medical reasons (Asthma etc) then you should, as you'd be in a slightly higher risk group. However, if you've never taken a seasonal flu shot before, and never had any serious and bad rounds of the flu, there will in most cases not be much trouble with this strain of flu either.
What separates the H1N1 flu from the regular seasonal flu is a (so far) slightly higher death ratio, but not dramatically so, the people who die from it (younger males seem to be more at risk, especially if they have Asthma or other complications) as opposed to the regular old and sick and lastly, that it seems to be able to spread a decent amount faster.
That being said, most people who get H1N1 actually do experience a milder case of the flu than the seasonal one, often times being out of bed again after only 3-4 days.
In other words, this IS a pandemic, but NOT the one we should be afraid of. Flu viruses mutate constantly which is why most scientists and doctors agree it's only a matter of time before we face a far more dangerous strain. If the Avian flu that came about a couple of years ago develops the contagiousness of the H1N1 flu, we're facing a far bigger killer.
As for the Vaccine: It was indeed made fairly fast, but it is in essence just a modified version of the seasonal flu vaccine, they've done nothing else to this than the regular modifications they make every year.
There ought not to be any significantly worse side effects of this than the regular flu vaccine, it's important to remember than any case of serious side effect you hear about in the media regarding this vaccine could also happen with a seasonal flu shot, only then it's not newsworthy.
Get the shot if your children usually get the seasonal flu shot because of lungs and airway deceases, if you don't usually get them the flu shot, and they don't suffer any illness that would increase the "effectiveness" of the H1N1 flu, then there's not really much more of a danger to get this round of the flu, the likelyhood of them getting it is just higher.
As for myself, I'm a 24 year old man, with Asthma and various allergies and as such in the high risk group, but I'm not getting the vaccine as I'm not from here, and I'm completely calm about it, because even in "my" high risk group,most who get it are survivors.
Have a nice day people!
11-11-2009, 03:24 PM
Location: Greenwood Village, Colorado
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Getting the vaccine or not, time will tell
the virus/vaccine is relying on the persons immune system to do the damage, it is the cytokin storm that creates the pneumonia LIKE disease, it will come out in media as Pneumonia, cytokin storm is an over loaded immune response, your bodies antigenes are attacking everything, incuding your own antigenes (or cells)
recently jospeh moshe tried to warn us of a plauge caused from some contamined vaccines. He was deported and not heard from since, He predicted in aug what is exactly happening now in the Ukraine.
But I am not worried, I have seen videos of some really nice FEMA camps scattered all over the US. Maybe we can all make smores.
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People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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