Dallas Schools Top in Nation (Mercedes: low income, house, magnet schools)

[DWong]

Originally Posted by Lakewooder

Looks like they got our info this time, Woodrow is almost in the top 1/3 of the list (and ahead of schools in Richardson, Plano, McKinney and Frisco):

Texas schools America's Top Public High Schools | Newsweek Best High Schools | Newsweek.com

TAG, Science - Engineering, WT White and Hillcrest also made the list.

2 Talented and Gifted Dallas Texas 15.953 31 79.1
4 Science/Engineering Magnet Dallas Texas 10.245 50.9 101
15 Highland Park Dallas Texas 6.035 0 65.1
18 North Hills Prep ** Irving Texas 5.563 9 67.6
26 Communications Arts San Antonio Texas 5.245 13 56.8
44 South Texas High School for Health Professions Mercedes Texas 4.551 55.1 54.4
46 Science Academy of South Texas Mercedes Texas 4.543 43 62.7
52 Westlake Austin Texas 4.331 3 69
53 Diamond Hill-Jarvis Fort Worth Texas 4.317 84.5 28.1
77 Westwood ** Austin Texas 3.864 8.2 59.1
88 Paschal Fort Worth Texas 3.705 31 32.5
94 Colleyville Heritage Colleyville Texas 3.675 7.6 33.7
95 LBJ Austin Texas 3.667 45 50
100 Bellaire ** Bellaire Texas 3.608 28 57.9
121 Memorial Houston Texas 3.365 9.3 49.5
127 White Dallas Texas 3.3 70 17.5
170 YES Prep Southeast Houston Texas 2.971 74.6 73.2
179 Grapevine Grapevine Texas 2.927 7.5 43
186 Debakey High School for Health Professions Houston Texas 2.857 48.6 91
189 Alamo Heights San Antonio Texas 2.846 12.7 44.3
217 Plano West Plano Texas 2.69 5 44.4
239 Westside Houston Texas 2.617 35 40.7
241 Stratford Houston Texas 2.611 22 37.7
289 Health Careers San Antonio Texas 2.475 19.1 57.7
295 Lawrence D Bell ** Hurst Texas 2.467 26.2 22.4
298 Garland ** Garland Texas 2.464 45 65
317 Wichita Falls Wichita Falls Texas 2.395 60 23.8
335 High School for Performing & Visual Arts Houston Texas 2.347 13.6 58.7
359 Clements Sugar Land Texas 2.287 2.6 46.2
368 New Braunfels New Braunfels Texas 2.275 47.9 26.9
386 L. C. Anderson ** Austin Texas 2.233 19.3 55.6
399 Rider Wichita Falls Texas 2.202 21 28.9
421 Clear Lake Houston Texas 2.152 7.3 37.1
432 Coppell Coppell Texas 2.13 3 34
446 Winston Churchill San Antonio Texas 2.094 59 27.4
450 Edinburg Edinburg Texas 2.077 80 28.7
453 The Woodlands The Woodlands Texas 2.073 2 48.3
463 Plano Plano Texas 2.056 7 45.7
478 J.J. Pearce Richardson Texas 2.037 18.8 37.4
484 Carroll Corpus Christi Texas 2.033 <1 40.1
489 International School of the Americas San Antonio Texas 2.029 15.4 28.6
518 Woodrow Wilson Dallas Texas 1.986 54 22.6
537 Hillcrest Dallas Texas 1.956 52.8 21.2
541 Trinity ** Euless Texas 1.95 32.3 21.1
560 Clark San Antonio Texas 1.922 25 21.2
589 Lake Travis Austin Texas 1.871 9.7 38.1
592 Valley View Pharr Texas 1.867 96 40.8
608 Burbank ** San Antonio Texas 1.845 83 47.8
619 Boerne Boerne Texas 1.824 13 21.9
622 Turner Carrolton Texas 1.82 55.3 22.8
627 McKinney McKinney Texas 1.807 20.2 24.9
628 Brackenridge San Antonio Texas 1.806 100 8.1
631 McCallum Austin Texas 1.799 35.4 37.7
633 A&M Consolidated College Station Texas 1.793 21.5 35.4
662 McNeil Austin Texas 1.746 14 32.7
675 Newman Smith Carrolton Texas 1.73 39 41.4
679 Richardson Richardson Texas 1.727 37.1 26.7
702 Plano East ** Plano Texas 1.698 19 29
716 Cedar Park Cedar Park Texas 1.683 7 32.9
723 Killeen ** Killeen Texas 1.668 44 12.8
727 Aldine Houston Texas 1.654 74.1 23.6
749 McKinney North McKinney Texas 1.631 20.7 24.9
758 Flower Mound Flower Mound Texas 1.62 2 39.8
762 John Jay San Antonio Texas 1.618 62 10.8
764 James E. Taylor Katy Texas 1.617 8 65.2
780 Alice Alice Texas 1.598 68 4.6
800 Round Rock Round Rock Texas 1.572 23.9 60.7
831 Dripping Springs Dripping Springs Texas 1.539 6.3 43.9
834 M.B. Lamar ** Houston Texas 1.536 41 47
835 Creekview Carrolton Texas 1.534 32 35.9
890 Reagan San Antonio Texas 1.467 1 86
909 Edinburg North North Edinburg Texas 1.445 88 43.8
911 Friendswood Friendswood Texas 1.445 26 30.8
914 Elkins Missouri City Texas 1.443 15 27.3
944 Allen ** Allen Texas 1.42 9 23.5
945 Cinco Ranch Katy Texas 1.42 3.3 39.6
956 James Bowie Austin Texas 1.405 9 32.9
964 Stephen F. Austin Austin Texas 1.391 30 24.1
976 Berkner Richardson Texas 1.38 25.3 26.4
989 Theodore Roosevelt San Antonio Texas 1.365 54 7
991 The Colony The Colony Texas 1.364 19.8 22.7
1016 Ball Galveston Texas 1.338 55 10.7
1033 Denison Denison Texas 1.321 42 17.6
1037 W. Charles Akins Austin Texas 1.316 56.3 18.7
1040 Sherman Sherman Texas 1.313 56.2 21.2
1044 Lake Highlands Dallas Texas 1.307 33.9 25.9
1054 Northwest Justin Texas 1.295 16.2 12.2
1065 Captain John L. Chapin El Paso Texas 1.286 53.2 16.8
1078 Lubbock ** Lubbock Texas 1.273 69 17.5
1094 David Crockett Austin Texas 1.259 50.4 20.2
1113 Flour Bluff Corpus Christi Texas 1.242 31 14.5
1122 Temple ** Temple Texas 1.234 45.3 17.7
1157 Langham Creek Houston Texas 1.203 25 26.8
1167 Tomball Tomball Texas 1.192 14.4 21.5
1172 Lopez Brownsville Texas 1.183 100 17.5
1175 Simon Rivera Brownsville Texas 1.18 100 20.2
1210 Douglas Macarthur San Antonio Texas 1.145 -- 6.8
1211 Naaman Forest Garland Texas 1.144 -- 16.6
1260 Centennial Frisco Texas 1.098 <1 25.6
1265 Cypress Creek Houston Texas 1.095 18.6 30

Hate to burst everyone's bubble but the tool they measured to take this was "Advanced Placement, Intl. Baccalaureate and/or Cambridge tests taken by all students at a school in 2007 divided by the number of graduating seniors"

How more lame can you get? It doesn't measure anything, but the number of kids who show up to take the exam. Says nothing about RESULTS! If I could start a charter school and make sure eveyone took the exam, I'd be on the list. Go figure... this guy is an idiot if that's how he measure how well schools perform... and he writes from newsweek.. geez... guess they'll hire anyone.

[Lakewooder]

Originally Posted by DWong

Hate to burst everyone's bubble but the tool they measured to take this was "Advanced Placement, Intl. Baccalaureate and/or Cambridge tests taken by all students at a school in 2007 divided by the number of graduating seniors"

How more lame can you get? It doesn't measure anything, but the number of kids who show up to take the exam. Says nothing about RESULTS! If I could start a charter school and make sure eveyone took the exam, I'd be on the list. Go figure... this guy is an idiot if that's how he measure how well schools perform... and he writes from newsweek.. geez... guess they'll hire anyone.

OK as long as you say the same thing about TAKS. But not every school has wide participation in AP/IB, so this would winnow down to those which do offer a successful program.

[pepper131]

You can de-bunk the stats that make up the listing...BUT...the reality is that only 20% of 8th grade students in the US have the scores to even consider applying to the School of Science and Engineering. From that pool, they take only the elite.

Kids who are successful at Science and Engineering are fully prepared to enter MIT or Cal Tech - directly from high school...often with scholarship. One such boy is currently at MIT paying 10% of the yearly tuition.

The entrance requirements at TAG are slightly higher than SEM.

Either way, these schools have spectacular students.

[Spree]

>> 127 White Dallas Texas 3.3 70 17.5 <<

Good showing by W.T. White, a DISD school W. T. White High School

[DWong]

Originally Posted by pepper131

You can de-bunk the stats that make up the listing...BUT...the reality is that only 20% of 8th grade students in the US have the scores to even consider applying to the School of Science and Engineering. From that pool, they take only the elite.

Kids who are successful at Science and Engineering are fully prepared to enter MIT or Cal Tech - directly from high school...often with scholarship. One such boy is currently at MIT paying 10% of the yearly tuition.

The entrance requirements at TAG are slightly higher than SEM.

Either way, these schools have spectacular students.

I'm sure all of these schools have great students, but to rank the TOP HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY based on this is a joke. There are better ways and more factors that go into it. Again, taking a test means nothing more than showing up.

[Lakewooder]

I suppose you think you can get dumb students to pay the fee and show up?

BTW mom I see Garland did well on the list -- um now where is Frisco?

[Philip T]

Originally Posted by DWong

I'm sure all of these schools have great students, but to rank the TOP HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE COUNTRY based on this is a joke. There are better ways and more factors that go into it. Again, taking a test means nothing more than showing up.

Keep in mind when they do college ratings it include number of trees on campus.

Yes, that was not a joke, but the ratings tend to be.

Real thing it shows is that it is money that matters. The students are funded in the top Dallas ISD schools 3 to 4 times what the bottom end schools are. This is the Big House on the Plantation in action. While the Plantation suckth, the Big House is always nice. If you are in you in it is Golden. If you are in the field hand turf -- well it sucks being you. The vast numbers are not in blessed path, and are totally screwed.

[DWong]

Originally Posted by Lakewooder

I suppose you think you can get dumb students to pay the fee and show up?

BTW mom I see Garland did well on the list -- um now where is Frisco?

YOU WOULD BE SURPRISD HOW GOOD OF PR IT IS FOR A SCHOOL TO BE RANKED UP THERE. PLUS MANY OF AFFLUENT AREAS, I BET THEY CAN JUST HAVE PEOPLE PAY AND SHOW UP. HOW ABOUT RESULTS OF THE TEST? SAT TEST? SOMETHING? REALLY - THE AUTHOR OF THE ARTICLE IS ON THE BRINK OF RETARDATION. THOSE LOCAL TO THE AREA KNOW WHAT SCHOOLS ARE THE BEST - THE ONES I KNOW LOCALLY ON THERE... THEY'RE A JOKE.. FULL OF RICH KIDS OR HAND-PICKED SMARTIES. OF COURSE THEY ALL TAKE THE EXAM..

[pepper131]

The way I understand payment for the AP exam is that it's based on income - so if the student participates in the free lunch program, their AP test is free.

[DWong]

Originally Posted by pepper131

The way I understand payment for the AP exam is that it's based on income - so if the student participates in the free lunch program, their AP test is free.

NOT SURE IF THAT IS THE CASE, BUT REGARDLESS, THE ARTICLE IS A SHAM.