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Old 09-17-2020, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Middletown, DE
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Hi folks, I live in Middletown which is nice but the explosive growth over the past few years

has caused the town to increase spending on building new schools.

New schools costs millions of dollars and in my opinion may be a direct cause of why

property taxes have increased from a mere $2200 just a few short years ago to almost

$5000 per year. While I like Middletown, as my kids prepare for College there is less

incentive to stay in the Middletown Appo School District and pay these high school taxes.

How is Camden-Wyoming area in comparison? (Post-Corona of course) what is there to do

here in Middletown we have Bowling, Movie Theatre, and the Christiana Mall is about 20 minutes

away with all the stores up there -- and even though Middletown has issues of crime

its nothing very alarming (i.e. violent crimes) its sometimes car broken into, kids damage, drunk person

etc. I suspect that Camden-Wyoming area being small -- you are driving to Dover....

Is that relatively safe -- how's the mall -- I know I can just drive down which I plan to do

but in the time of Corona -- I try to limit my movements --

Thanks for your input.
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Old 09-18-2020, 05:40 AM
 
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Which are you interested in? Camden or Wyoming? They are 2 different towns, with many differences. Yes, they have the same zip code, but they each have their own governments and tax structures, their own police forces, and each has their own identity. When you enter Wyoming via Camden-Wyoming Avenue, you'll see and feel the difference.
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Old 09-18-2020, 12:08 PM
 
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He's got some pretty valid concerns..

For those of us unfamiliar, but interested in that area, can you describe what you see
driving in? I wish there was a current YouTube cam taking a slow ride, describing
what they see as they drive the main roads of each area.

Wow, I had no idea homes were taxed so high. I thought DE was rather light on taxes
which makes it stand out as a beautiful state to bring ones talents to.

Rdlr, does Middletown have taxes higher than other towns?
Would it be on par with Milton & Lewes, (or just b/c of growth spurt in Middletown)?

Thanks for being the diplomat of Delaware
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Old 09-18-2020, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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Do not lose sight of one thing in the exiting of Middletown or anywhere in De for that matter.

You will pay a 2% transfer tax on the sale and the same on the new purchase. That can buy a lot. Transfer taxes are 4% generally split by the buyer and seller.
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Old 09-20-2020, 02:49 PM
 
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Bear in mind that a lot of "city" locations are not inside city limits. A "Dover" home may or may not be inside the city. This will impact your services and property taxes. So, a "Dover" home with $1200.00 a year taxes will possibly have well water and a septic tank, use state and county police, and have extra charges for fire and garbage service.

The mall and casino are in downtown Dover on the Rt. 13 "strip" which, besides the mall, offers almost every chain store you could want. Go a few minutes East or West of Rt. 13 and you are in farm country.

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Old 09-20-2020, 04:33 PM
 
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Bear in mind that a lot of "city" locations are not inside city limits. A "Dover" home may or may not be inside the city. This will impact your services and property taxes. So, a "Dover" home with $1200.00 a year taxes will possibly have well water and a septic tank, use state and county police, and have extra charges for fire and garbage service.

The mall and casino are in downtown Dover on the Rt. 13 "strip" which, besides the mall, offers almost every chain store you could want. Go a few minutes East or West of Rt. 13 and you are in farm country.
We have volunteer fire companies. The City of Dover, Town of Camden, and Town of Wyoming each have additional charges for garbage pick up (like outlying properties).
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Old 09-21-2020, 02:45 PM
 
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Which are you interested in? Camden or Wyoming? They are 2 different towns, with many differences. Yes, they have the same zip code, but they each have their own governments and tax structures, their own police forces, and each has their own identity. When you enter Wyoming via Camden-Wyoming Avenue, you'll see and feel the difference.
Rdlr I'm not local and can't do a drive-by but I wonder if you can describe a character reference for these two towns and share the differences for the reader please.
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Old 09-21-2020, 03:37 PM
 
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Rdlr I'm not local and can't do a drive-by but I wonder if you can describe a character reference for these two towns and share the differences for the reader please.
Camden, DE is twice the size of Wyoming, DE, (3501-Camden, (1536 Wyoming) and are linked by Camden-Wyoming Avenue. Camden borders Rt. 13, Super WalMart, Lowes, many restaurants/businesses and a large police force. Wyoming is more of a 'step back in time'. Wyoming has one restaurant, an ice cream shop, Wyoming Park and pond, and a 3-person police force. Both towns share the same post office and fire department. When leaving Camden and entering Wyoming, you'll notice the antique sign "Welcome to Wyoming" and the telephone poles in Wyoming have large American Flags on display, year round. On a typical year, Wyoming has an August "Wyoming Peach Festival". In conclusion, Wyoming has a rural feel while Camden has much more hustle-bustle. As said many times, outlying areas can have a Camden address or a Wyoming address, as each town carries the same 19934 zip code.
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Old 09-23-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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Hi folks, I live in Middletown which is nice but the explosive growth over the past few years

has caused the town to increase spending on building new schools.

New schools costs millions of dollars and in my opinion may be a direct cause of why

property taxes have increased from a mere $2200 just a few short years ago to almost

$5000 per year.

Thanks for your input.

According to statistics I have read, Middletown's annual spending per pupil is around $13,000 per student which is below the state average. That being said, others before you as well as others without children have effectively subsidized the spending beyond the taxes you have paid in order for your children to enjoy a great education. Gauging from Middletown's population growth, it appears the "secret is out" and the population has grown. Are the developers who plan the 100+ at a time developments in Middletown
made to contribute to the infrastructure? I used to drive to Middletown semi-regularly and became well acquainted with how the roads cannot support the larger volume
of Middletown. So I also wonder if things like school buildings and resources were included in growth plans for the developments that popped up over the past 15 years.

At some point something has to give. Nice things cost money and the money has to come from some place. Don't get me wrong, a community should have good schools,
amenities such as activities, good roads, public spaces that are well maintained, and an involved responsive police department. These cost money.

Some may argue that now it is your turn to subsidize others' children just as others subsidized your children from K-12. Granted, it is understandable that costs can creep up and salaries haven't kept pace. I was a little suprised that it is $5,000 per year as that is creeping closer to what one might expect in Massachusetts where it is typical to pay between $6,000-$12,000 per year in property taxes. In MA property taxes is what funds school districts.



With the growth that is happening, does age of residence factor into property taxes, meaning that a property that is say 100 years old has been generating property taxes far longer than a property say 10 years old. So one would expect that an "older" home would have a property tax that is smaller than a "younger" home. Most likely it is based on the assessed value of the home. That also begs the question of if older homes are assessed at a higher value than improved older homes homes and newer homes?

How are property taxes accessed in Middletown? Or is a school tax different from the property tax? Or is the property tax itemized as property and school in one bill?
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Old 09-23-2020, 04:01 PM
 
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So wait! Does the Realtor have that dollar amount (school tax) for each house or must you go through quite a bit of hunt and peck to find it out on your own for each property?
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