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Old 11-21-2019, 07:48 AM
 
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My cousin had one zirconium crown. He has it for more than 10 years now. It is his front tooth now its showing some discoloring and looks a bit pale from other teeth.
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Old 03-04-2020, 03:08 PM
 
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Tcurrent update attempted:

The allergy doctor is unable to get samples of the glue used by my old dentist on the temporary crown and the glues used on the permanent crown. The dentist says she can't provide one of the unopened tubes, as she thinks it was likely the glue in that particular tube that might have caused the alleged reaction I had of dry mouth and loss oSf taste, not the brand of glues used in their opinion, so the old dentist is refusing any samples to allow for allergy testing. I would consider the option if I could of buying a sample of both glues from the old dentist yet I have not asked that yet. Right now the allergy testing is blocked--unless I get a sample of the glue, i have wasted my money.

I have considered ordering the $325 kit, report, and paper from biocomplabs.com as there is lab 2 hours away that I could take it to have the blood drawn etc and have then ship it off. Yet I don't have that money at the moment to do that.

In January of 2020 about two days before my teeth cleaning appointment at my old dentist, the dentist texted me that they were cancalling my appointment due to my complaints about possible allergey issues with the crown put in and to seek care elsewhere. The old dentist also said that they would never put another crown on me again. I was due for a second one according to their recommendation. I just wanted my teeth cleaned, nothing more from them. The canceled me as a patient.

I was lucky to find an opening at the 5th (new) dentist that same date of the canceled appointment and got my teeth cleaned. The new dentist however found in his interpretation that there was a "gap" in the crown that was in my mouth; that he was going to put a watch on it for future decay; that to get the gap fixed I would need to have the dentist who put it in take care of it, that he would provided copies of the xrays for that toothed crown to the old dentist if necessary.

I dropped by the old dentist on the January middle holiday, just a few days after I had my teeth cleaned by the new dentist and nicely informed them I had found another dentist, etc and wondered if she could look at the crown to determine if the gap was there on the crown that the new dentist said was there. I realized there could be interpretational differences on xrays and just needed to know. They said they would call for the xrays. The old dentist though wanted to talk to the new dentist about his findings and to ask for the xrays at the same time.

Here it is March 4, nearly two months and still no word. She can't get the new dentist to give her xray copies that indicate a possible gap in the crown.

The new dentist at one point when he talked to the old dentist on another date was now saying the crown didn't need replacing, implying there was no gap. Yet the new dentist had told me there was a gap and he would not be able to fix it without charging me all over again for it since he did not install it.

I just called the old dentist today to find out the status--is there a gap or not? If there is a gap, the old dentist said she would credit me what I had to pay out of pocket for the crown as they would not replace it. I just want to know which one is right--the old dentist or the new dentist.

I go to my gum specialist dentist (the one that shares the teeth cleaning) in mid April and I have the next cleaning with the new dentist 3 months after that already scheduled. I guess I could ask the gum specialist if I have no heard anything from the old dentist by then to look at the crown and see if there is or is not a gap from his view.

Iam trying to take good care of my teeth and flossing, brushing stuff within 18 hours of eating to avoid the plaque/tartar from building up. Once any food gets in the alleged gap and causes decay, then at some point the crown might need replacing according to the new dentist.

I still want to try the biocomplab.com site when I can get the money to do that or try to purchase samples of it, depending on which is cheaper.

Right now I feel I am getting the run around. My old dentist clearly does not believe I had type of allergy to the crown work. Yet I heard their office say they supported allergy testing when I called them yet then they bunker down and refuse to give glue samples.

The new dentist did surprise me with his other findings from the new xrays. The one tooth in the topright rear corner had a starting cavity which he put down as a watch and see type whiich the old dentist dismissed as not worth looking at or putting on as a watch and see. Also, the lower right corner where the old dentist said I needed a second crown (which is not currently hurting me at all) the new dentist here said it was not a leaking cavity, yes it was an older cavity that was filled yet it was not leaking and needed no work done to it at this time. By the new dentist's viewpoint, he basically saved me from getting a second crown which I really did not needed so being cancelled by my old dentist could be a blessing as it has saved me from unnecessary pain and suffering.

No more crowns for me. I would have a tooth pulled, or put up with the pain with clove oild, etc or ultimately wear dentures.

I am a bit disappointed with dentists in general. I may have approached all of this wrong yet I went to the allergy doctor and paid $328 dollars for an office visit as I knew the dentist could not do that at her office. I did call my old dentist about possible allergy to the crown yet at that time she did not request I come in to have her look at the crown to see if there were issues she could address to make it better. Why didn't she ask me to come in?

So I am out money for an allergy doctor. Still trying to get the old dentist to connect with the new dentist to see the crown xrays where an alleged gap is shown, so I have some verification--not placing blame--just I need to know. If nothing else maybe I can get the gum specialist to look the crown over and give his opinion to gap or not to gap that is the question.


My only option, other than to give up, is to do the biolab blood test and have the results sent to the allergy doctor--that is a viable option if I can get the money together yet that is an extra $325 dollars , plus gas to to the lab place two hours away and gas back home--then the lab place could sent the test kit off to whereever and then they would send the results back to the allergy docotr for me to come by and she could give me the results of it. Either that or purchase samples of the glues used by the old dentist for more than $325.

I am going to sent this if I am able. No more dental repair work for me unless I am in so much pain that I can't tolerate it.
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Old 03-04-2020, 03:18 PM
 
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cocobanana,


I feel for you. I had my dentist dump me also because he didn't want to tell me what metals were used in his crown and what the porcelain material was. In truth he wanted to do a emax or zirconia crown and I wanted porcelain fused to metal with a metal that I wasn't allergic to. Before coming to this dentist they said they would work with a patient with dental material allergies. But when it came down to it they said "questions like this are outside of the scope of care we can provide".


Leaving that dentist will be beneficial in the long run. They aren't a true professional medical person.
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Old 03-04-2020, 03:22 PM
 
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Last update: I don't know what this means.

I got a reply from my old dentist below:

We have not received the x-rays from your new dentist. I checked with my office manager--she has called and requested them 5 times. For some reason, it appears they (the new dentist) is unwilling to send them to us. Since we cannot get them, our office is suggestsing I find a 3rd party for a consultation. Thanks for your call today. Have a good week.

Question: Does this mean I am no longer a patient at the new dentist though he has not canceled me yet?

Why would the new dentist decline to give xrays of the crowned tooth to my old dentist?

Does his refusal to provide the crown xrays only imply he doesn't want to admit he made an error?

Was I wrong to seek out my old dentist about the alleged gap in the crown just for verification, one way or the other? I am not trying to assess blame. If there is no gap in the crown, I won't fuss about overcleaning the teeth yet if there is a gap since I am not perfect, at some point food will get trapped in and start a family.


Do I need to start looking for a new dentist, which would be my 6th dentist? Or do I wait until this new one cancels me and start all over again?

Or just use my gum dentist for cleaning and worry about dental repair down the road when it comes up, if the gum dentist would be willing to be the primary teeth cleaner person?

Can some out out their tell me what is going on? Is it dental poilitics or is there such a thing?

I guess I will ask the gum specialist to look it over and maybe tell me what he thinks--maybe he can take a xray on the crown and look it over--I am willing to pay for that if he would that. That would be a third consulation, would it not?


Must close. Time to get off from work.
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Old 03-05-2020, 12:02 PM
 
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final update before giving up: Time will tell.

I did drop by the new dentist office today to sign a paper allowing them to send the xrays to the old dentist (my error on one of the papers I signed initially-hipco oath rule) and xrays are supposed to be sent this week and I hopefully know next week on gap status.

Also called the old dentist and asked if I could purchase a sample of the temporary glue and permanent glue used on the crown and pay with a credit card and today staff said I could pick it up on Monday and take it direct to the allergy doctor to set up a time for allergy testing. I don't know what changed her mind yet am glad she did.

Thanks for listening.
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Old 03-10-2020, 02:41 PM
 
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She changed her mind. I asked about buying the glue tubes and she offered me a partial used permanent crown glue which I took to the allergy doctor.

She said when she gets the temporary crown glue, which she just started up recently, and it gets close to the very end she will offer that to me to take to the allergy doctor to get testing on that also. It may takes months however.

I don't know why the old dentist changed her mind yet she did and I was happy about it.
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I still have my new dentist so far. The new dentist sent me the xrays finally and I forwarded them on to the old dentist to look out. It was something to do with a form to fill ou


Life is short. I just overthink stuff. My mouth and teeth don't hurt. . I just need to go with the flow.
Unless major stuff occurs, likely no more updates for a while.
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Old 04-28-2020, 11:35 PM
 
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She changed her mind. I asked about buying the glue tubes and she offered me a partial used permanent crown glue which I took to the allergy doctor.

She said when she gets the temporary crown glue, which she just started up recently, and it gets close to the very end she will offer that to me to take to the allergy doctor to get testing on that also. It may takes months however.

I don't know why the old dentist changed her mind yet she did and I was happy about it.
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I still have my new dentist so far. The new dentist sent me the xrays finally and I forwarded them on to the old dentist to look out. It was something to do with a form to fill ou


Life is short. I just overthink stuff. My mouth and teeth don't hurt. . I just need to go with the flow.
Unless major stuff occurs, likely no more updates for a while.
My father is having the same problem since last 6 months after getting 6 zirconia crown
Earlier it tastes acidic and sour everytime
He also got it removed and now he was going to a gasterologist, he told it is due to stomach problem and acidity
He was told to avoid complex carbs ,soda etc and was given antibiotics
2.5 months have passed now the tastes isn't acidic or sour as it was earlier but still not the same. The doctor is saying it will take time
We are going to take a second opinion and will be going for endoscopy to see if the 1st gasterologist was right or not
And for the crowns he got porcelain ones in place of zirconia but that didn't helped much . I think this zirconia crown triggers this acidic problem in very few people
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Old 05-05-2020, 10:10 AM
 
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Hi, I just wanted to add myself to the number of people who seem to be having issues with zirconia crowns. I went to the dentist 5 weeks ago and got my old 6 unit PFM crowns/bridge replaced with zirconia crowns/bridge and ever since then have been experiencing constantly awful symptoms. A terrible sour taste, burning sensation above the crowns/bridge, tightness in my throat, and extreme sensitivity to cold. I see switching to emax crowns doesn't seem to help. I'm only 33 years old but I'm considering getting my 4 teeth pulled and getting a removable partial denture just to get rid of these symptoms!
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Old 05-05-2020, 10:46 AM
 
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Keka, Go back to PFM. That is what I did and the symptoms went away. It is just hard to find a dentist who will do it nowadays.
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Old 05-05-2020, 10:55 AM
 
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Keka, Go back to PFM. That is what I did and the symptoms went away. It is just hard to find a dentist who will do it nowadays.

I just forked over 5k for this bridge.. there's no way I can afford another... I can't believe the dentists are allowed to use this material with so many people having adverse reactions to it.
I definitely need/want it removed..
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