Chronic Gum Pain/Discomfort Following Frenectomy/Gum Graft (dentist, side, repair)
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I definitely want to try out this regimen of vitamins and oils to see if it can help with my neuropathy. What specific brands of products have you been using?
It's a whole different subject than what I originally posted here for but I actually have some cavities that my dentist has identified but I haven't gotten them filled yet. Do you think it's worth trying the heal them with this regimen you've described before getting them filled?
Firstly I recommend you buy this book. This is what Weston Price had to say when asked a similar question:
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I don't ever recommend you avoid a dentist, but rather, find a good one.
By the way, check out this story, I think you will find it intersting.
The specific brands of products I used were as follows:
Green Pastures Blue Ice Royal Butter Oil / Fermented Cod Liver Oil Blend Gel.
I also recently started to supplement with 'Natures Way Alive Calcium Bone Formula'. I use 'Now Foods Digest Ultimate'' when I consume foods that contain phytic acid as well. I'm still weighing up the pros and cons of Phytic acid content though.
I have also started to use Coral White Toothpaste as opposed to the more widely know commercial ones to see if that helps.
I would recommend you be careful of how much sugars you consume because that can reduce the effectiveness of any regime (even natural sugars). Some think oil pulling can help too but I'm not convinced yet, it's definately worth looking into though.
Last edited by QuestOfTruth; 12-08-2014 at 09:36 PM..
Firstly I recommend you buy this book. This is what Weston Price had to say when asked a similar question:
By the way, check out this story, I think you will find it intersting.
The specific brands of products I used were as follows:
Green Pastures Blue Ice Royal Butter Oil / Fermented Cod Liver Oil Blend Gel.
I also recently started to supplement with 'Natures Way Alive Calcium Bone Formula'. I use 'Now Foods Digest Ultimate'' when I consume foods that contain phytic acid as well. I'm still weighing up the pros and cons of Phytic acid content though.
I have also started to use Coral White Toothpaste as opposed to the more widely know commercial ones to see if that helps.
I would recommend you be careful of how much sugars you consume because that can reduce the effectiveness of any regime (even natural sugars). Some think oil pulling can help too but I'm not convinced yet, it's definately worth looking into though.
Wow ok I'll check out the books!
Have you experienced any post operation gum neuropathy yourself? Or are you just speaking to cavity prevention?
Have you experienced any post operation gum neuropathy yourself? Or are you just speaking to cavity prevention?
I haven't experienced that myself but I'm not just speaking about cavity prevention either. I made my suggestions because I believe nutrition to be at the root of almost all Dental problems other than physical injury. I think the oils will provide the body with the building blocks required to repair, heal and improve what it needs to. It then becomes a possibility that such nutrition will provide benefit in your case. It may not but I think it is definitely worth a try. Scroll down and read 'Nan Lee's' post here.
Although the book title focuses on cavities, it is about so much more than just that. Keep us updated if you decide to try. The oil has about 96 servings per bottle if you take their recommended amount, but I take a little more at 2 teaspoons a day at separate times. I take a form of Vitamin D3 as well (included in my Alive Calcium supplement) because the ratio of A is often much higher than D in those oils. The Weston Price Institute says it is safe but I think the ratio is too unbalanced.
Last edited by QuestOfTruth; 12-09-2014 at 07:42 PM..
I haven't experienced that myself but I'm not just speaking about cavity prevention either. I made my suggestions because I believe nutrition to be at the root of almost all Dental problems other than physical injury. I think the oils will provide the body with the building blocks required to repair, heal and improve what it needs to. It then becomes a possibility that such nutrition will provide benefit in your case. It may not but I think it is definitely worth a try. Scroll down and read 'Nan Lee's' post here.
Although the book title focuses on cavities, it is about so much more than just that. Keep us updated if you decide to try. The oil has about 96 servings per bottle if you take their recommended amount, but I take a little more at 2 teaspoons a day at separate times. I take a form of Vitamin D3 as well (included in my Alive Calcium supplement) because the ratio of A is often much higher than D in those oils. The Weston Price Institute says it is safe but I think the ratio is too unbalanced.
Interesting! I'm going to look into this deeper!
What are your thoughts on a Paleo diet for dental health? That is my current diet.
What are your thoughts on a Paleo diet for dental health? That is my current diet.
I don't know enough about the Paleo diet but it is mentioned in papers about Dental health in a positive sense. Also, it's not just what you eat but where it was sourced and the diet of dairy. For example, if you ate meat or cheese from Cows that were not grass fed then it wouldn't have enough of the required tooth building minerals.
What is a typical days meal on that diet?
This link explains most of why I no longer use conventional toothpaste. I'm not sure about the Glycerin claim but why take the risk.
Last edited by QuestOfTruth; 12-10-2014 at 09:53 AM..
Luke, good luck with the new regimen and thank you for sharing your chart. Obviously, the element of stress can be quite damaging to our overall health. I like your approach though with meditation, exercise and diet. It certainly cannot hurt. I had a permanent crown placed this week and so far (crossed fingers) no gum irritation. It is quite possible that I was experiencing an allergic reaction to the provisional. Strange though as other crowns have not caused that problem. Now my latest battle seems to be with TMJ. Due to the extensive dental work along with malocclusion, it is apparent that I am clenching. My root-canaled tooth is still bite sensitive, and I have also developed a buccal exostosis on the mandibular right side. Therefore, as suggested by my dentist, I am considering a mouth guard for overnight.
I am experiencing a pinching feeling as well along side the upper gums (palate side) whenever I speak. This has been ongoing for almost a year. It started with a sore scratchiness in the back of my mouth whenever I speak and since August of 2014 has been affecting the gums. I feel it when I speak, and like most of you, the pain subsides when eating. I have seen dentists, ENT's, a gastroenterologist, had blood/allergy work done and all showed nothing of concern. My next step is to see a neurologist. At this point I am pretty hopeless though. Are your symptoms like mine, when speaking? Thank you.
Here is another very interesting article about dental health and how its linked to diet. I find the section about Bone broth to be the most interesting since I doubt many have such things in their diet anymore. The comments section has some good stuff too.
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Periodontal Problems? Bone Broth Key to Your Recovery
I don't know enough about the Paleo diet but it is mentioned in papers about Dental health in a positive sense. Also, it's not just what you eat but where it was sourced and the diet of dairy. For example, if you ate meat or cheese from Cows that were not grass fed then it wouldn't have enough of the required tooth building minerals.
What is a typical days meal on that diet?
This link explains most of why I no longer use conventional toothpaste. I'm not sure about the Glycerin claim but why take the risk.
A typical day for me on the Paleo diet is as follows (all organic):
1) 6 egg scramble with mushrooms, spinach, tomatoes and onion (with my 100% ceramic pot and wooden spoon to avoid any metal leeching)
2) Chicken breast and spinach salad with tomatoes and avacado
3) Salmon fillet with cooked brocolli, tomatoes, onions, avacado and sweet potatoes
4) Lots of water (out of glass containers)
5) 1-2 organic Suja juices and or/ organic Kombuchas
6) A few pieces of dark chocolate candies before bed
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Regarding toothpaste, after doing some research I found this link where Mama Natural talks about Earthpaste! I'm gonna purchase some today. Thanks for bringing glycerin to my attention!
Luke, good luck with the new regimen and thank you for sharing your chart. Obviously, the element of stress can be quite damaging to our overall health. I like your approach though with meditation, exercise and diet. It certainly cannot hurt. I had a permanent crown placed this week and so far (crossed fingers) no gum irritation. It is quite possible that I was experiencing an allergic reaction to the provisional. Strange though as other crowns have not caused that problem. Now my latest battle seems to be with TMJ. Due to the extensive dental work along with malocclusion, it is apparent that I am clenching. My root-canaled tooth is still bite sensitive, and I have also developed a buccal exostosis on the mandibular right side. Therefore, as suggested by my dentist, I am considering a mouth guard for overnight.
I also suffer from a really bad malocclusion (only my front teeth hit). I worked with a TMJ specialist to create an orthotic that I wear 24-7 that gives me a perfect "home" where all my teeth bite down together comfortably. This has done wonders for my overall comfort and confidence in my bite. However, it has not cleared up the neuropathy but it does help.
I originally thought my neuropathy was the result of TMJ. I have since realized it is simply nerve damage from my frenectomy surgery. However, I did a TMJ physical therapy session and it seemed like it would have been great if that was actually my problem.
Let me know if you have any questions about getting an orthotic made. My dentist measured my mouth with various instruments to find me "ideal bite" to then create the orthotics.
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