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Old 04-16-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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Thank you to everyone who helped me in my other thread. I wanted to start a new one for the new issue...

4 months ago I got a crown that was not good, so i had it redone by a specialist. The permanent crown was placed 1 month ago and I have had non stop pain every day. Everything has been tested (bite, contour) and double checked. The specialist does not know why I am still having pain.

I went to a endodontist and he told that I do not need a root canal.

He said that the root canal may *not* help my pain but that I could do it if I wanted to try.

So i guess I am wondering, if getting a root canal when you dont need one but are in pain is a good idea? Has anyone hear of this or done this and had it help?
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:54 AM
 
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Rather than saying "no, it's not a good idea," I'll suggest you ask yourself these questions:

Would you get your appendix taken out, if the doctor told you that you didn't need one, but you had a stomach ache?

Would you have your toe amputated, if the doctor told you the toe was perfectly healthy, but your foot hurt?

Would you have your tonsils taken out if you had a sore throat but the doctor said there was nothing wrong with your tonsils and they didn't need to come out?

And most importantly:

Would you TRUST ANY doctor (other than a cosmetic surgeon) who told you that a procedure was not necessary, but he'll do it anyway if you want to? If my dentist told me that a root canal was not medically necessary, but that he'd do one for me anyway if I want, I'd find another dentist IMMEDIATELY, damn the expense, damn the insurance consequences, and report that dentist to the ADA.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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well i do agree with you but i want to look at it from every angle first


If I am having pain, and the root is gone.. would i not feel better? The gum is not puffy or bleading.. so then isnt the root the only thing left that can be causing the pain?
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:11 AM
 
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Would you get your appendix taken out, if the doctor told you that you didn't need one, but you had a stomach ache?

Would you have your toe amputated, if the doctor told you the toe was perfectly healthy, but your foot hurt?

Would you have your tonsils taken out if you had a sore throat but the doctor said there was nothing wrong with your tonsils and they didn't need to come out?

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I have to do the RC or extract the tooth. I can not go on in pain. So I am either going to amputate the toe or operate on the toe.. neither seems logical.


(my 1st post on this issue was back in December, it has been a long sad painfully road, i have seen 1 dentist, 2 prostodontists, 1 surgeon and 1 endodontist)
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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This is the exact same issue as the thread you were posting in before, so I'm not sure why you created a new thread. The answer is the same:

Your doctor told you there's nothing wrong with the tooth. You have two choices:

Believe him, and find out what is causing the pain
not believe him, and find another doctor.

Your doctor also told you that your tooth is reacting normally to whatever the problem is. This leads me to believe - that it's not the tooth. It's something else, and the tooth is reacting exactly how it should react: by giving you pain. Just like - if you bang your knee, you feel pain. Does this mean there's something wrong with your nerves? Nope. It means your nerves are doing EXACTLY what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to tell you that you just injured yourself. Your nerves are fine. They're responding appropriately.

Same thing with the nerve in your tooth. It's responding appropriately. To what? I don't know. That's what you have to find out. Your doctor has already told you that it isn't the tooth itself. If your foot hurts, would you amputate it? Or would you find out WHY it hurts, and treat whatever that cause is? If your chest hurts, would you immediately order a heart transplant? or would you find out WHY your chest hurts, and treat the cause?

Approach this the same way you would approach ANY part of your body that was experiencing pain. Find out WHY it's experiencing pain, and treat the cause.
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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This is the exact same issue as the thread you were posting in before, so I'm not sure why you created a new thread. The answer is the same:.

i started a new thread cause it is a different subject.. one was about after root canal pain and this is about the new situation.. just trying to be organized


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Your doctor has already told you that it isn't the tooth itself. If your foot hurts, would you amputate it? Or would you find out WHY it hurts, and treat whatever that cause is? If your chest hurts, would you immediately order a heart transplant? or would you find out WHY your chest hurts, and treat the cause?

Approach this the same way you would approach ANY part of your body that was experiencing pain. Find out WHY it's experiencing pain, and treat the cause.
I have been trying to figure it out.. i go to the dentist about once a week in pain asking for a solution. if its not the tooth and its not the gum and its not the nerve and its not an infection.. because all of those have been checked, i dont know what else can be checked. do you?


My tooth has reacted badly since the crown was placed.. IMO it is just a crown being on the tooth that my tooth does not like. I cant do anything about that.. the tooth has already been prepared for a crown. When he took the crown off it was fine when he placed it on it was hurting. This crown was compleatly redone by a different dentist also.

Trust me I am wanting a solution. I just dont know how to find one. Again, I have seen a Few dentists about these teeth and my pain.
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Old 04-16-2014, 11:20 AM
 
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If you've been to a few different dentists, and they all tell you there's nothing wrong with your tooth, you don't need a root canal, and they can't identify the cause of your pain - then perhaps you should see a psychiatrist. You might be experiencing pain created by your own mind, that is not caused by anything physiological at all, but is strictly psychological. I don't mean to suggest that you're only imagining the pain. Clearly you are in pain. But it might be your mind sending erroneous signals.

Of course it could -also- be that you demanded a crown when you should've had an implant - in which case there's nothing wrong with the tooth, it's just been ground down so much that any cold/air will create sensitivity. The best solution for that would be an implant. Especially on a molar where both the wisdom tooth AND the tooth next to it have already been extracted. Those are teeth you need to CHEW on. And a root canal tooth, with no tooth next to it, and a compromised tooth on the other side of it, will always give you trouble. Always.

If you had the other molar, I'd say get it extracted and bridged. Without that other molar though, I'd say just get an implant and be done with it once and for all.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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If the crown prep was done very close to the nerve, which sometimes happen you may end up needing a root canal as the nerve and pupal tissue is hyper inflammed, causing the sensitivity to biting, cold and hot. Usually pain and sensitivity should subside within a mont, sometimes it may take up to 5 months for it to totally heal. As long as the sensitivity is getting better over time you'll be alright, otherwise you need the root Canal
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