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Old 06-28-2020, 05:25 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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The insurance isn't a big factor. Unless you have some Cadillac plan, the moist insurance will pay in a year for EVERYTHING is typically $1,500-$2,000 and the percentage they pay on major work such as implants is usually 50% or so. So- if you have had nothing else done in that year (not even cleanings) they might pay that $1,500 or $2,000 on a $5,000 implant. That will get reduced by the cost of any other work you've had done during the year. Future work done in the year won't be covered since you've maxed out your annual limit. You're on the hook for the rest of the cost of the implant.

Dentures aren't as popular, IMO, because from what I've read, the jawbone shrinks over time due to loss of stimulation from the teeth chewing. So, your dentures start to slip and eventually you have to have new ones made. Rinse and repeat every few years. Have you ever been around someone with ill-fitting dentures? They slip when they talk and what they can eat is limited.

I have 5 implants. put in over the last 10 years. I love them.



Technically that's not dental insurance- I think that's more like a discount plan if you use dentists and specialists in-network. My dentist had a patient who used an in-network oral surgeon- the implant was just a teensy bit crooked so the prosthetic tooth didn't go in at the right angle. I don't know how he fixed that but I'm glad it wasn't in my mouth.



I have acalasia so it does not bother me but I am limited to what i can eat as well. My mother never had a problem eating anything she wanted too . she could eat an apple and she had dentures of course that was many many years ago when they were probably made better than they are now . My cousin tells me that are plastic now my mother had ceramic dentures they had no plastic ones back then .
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Old 06-28-2020, 06:24 PM
 
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I have acalasia so it does not bother me but I am limited to what i can eat as well. My mother never had a problem eating anything she wanted too . she could eat an apple and she had dentures of course that was many many years ago when they were probably made better than they are now . My cousin tells me that are plastic now my mother had ceramic dentures they had no plastic ones back then .
In the late 1970s/early 1980s I was dating a guy who was 45 but had dentures- he went through a couple of tubes of Poli-Grip a week even after he got new dentures. (Yeah, kissing him was a bit gross.) My dentist had a patient who couldn't even eat a hot dog on a bun at a ball game- he sold one of his sports cars to get a full set of dental implants and said they changed his life. There seems to be a wide variation- I know a few people who told me they had dentures or I wouldn't have known- with others it's obvious. And I wondered about the billboard ads for $99 dentures (the fine print says that's either upper or lower, cash price). Those must be the plastic version!
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Old 06-28-2020, 06:25 PM
 
Location: stuck in the woods with bears and moose
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When I got my implant, the dentist said that the difference between the cost of an implant and a root canal/crown wasn't much and that the implant would be better. I do have a lot of crowns so I know that they can break off or even fall off. The dentist removes more from your mouth--it's more invasive--than they do with an implant too.

I asked around and found people who had implants (that's the way I do my own personal research, lol) and quizzed them on how well they liked them and what dentist or oral surgeon they used. It's been at least ten years now with the implant and I can't tell the difference in any way between the implant and a tooth. I'm in my 70s. For the expense, I used a credit card called Care Credit in which you can take six months or a year to pay it off and as long as you pay it off in time, there's zero interest. Find a dentist who takes Care Credit.

I would never get dentures--somebody could probably write a dissertation on the reasons not to, least of which is that your mouth starts to look caved in. A partial is possible but from what I've heard, they can be a pain to clean and food gets caught in them. I'm glad I opted for the implant. It was well worth it.
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Old 06-30-2020, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Say to the dentist,

"Implants sound great! But since they are so costly, I will go to Mexico for the implants at 30% of the cost. Are there any other options I should consider before I schedule my trip?"
When I had a tooth extracted in March, the X-rays showed I needed 2 root canals and crowns, being skeptical, I decided to just have one done down in Nogales, MX at Dental Laser, popular with lots of seniors from Green Valley/Tucson. But meeting with them last week, they told me the lower tooth was too damaged for a root canal, and the other option was an implant ($1700, yes, in Mexico!) or a bridge ($300). With the 2 teeth now missing from my lower left, I've now opted for a bridge. But they can't fit it until the extraction heals in 3-4 weeks.

Then the fitting, then 2 more trips after that! Sheesh! What I dread the most is that long wait to get back across the Border. I've crossed from Tijuana many, many times and even with lines 5 blocks long, it always went quicker.

I talked to one woman, down from Las Vegas, who had all her upper teeth removed with implants, and just had all her lower teeth removed with implants, but I didn't realize it's such a long process. She'll be coming back end of August for the finale.
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Old 06-30-2020, 12:42 PM
 
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I talked to one woman, down from Las Vegas, who had all her upper teeth removed with implants, and just had all her lower teeth removed with implants, but I didn't realize it's such a long process. She'll be coming back end of August for the finale.
If I ever need dentures, I plan to go that route. I asked my dentist and yes, the 5 implants already in my jawbones could probably be "re-purposed" to anchor a full set of dentures, but he added quickly, "We're not going to let that happen".

Yes, it's a very slow process. In my case, with single-tooth implants, I went in for the surgery to remove the damaged tooth, add the bone graft and install the implant. Two months later, uncover it (sometimes gum tissue or bone encroaches) and put in a "healing cap" and two months after that screw in the prosthetic tooth. I've seen "implants in a day" advertised but I like the gradual approach.
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Old 06-30-2020, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I don't think I'd have the patience for that. It'll be a test for me just to get the bridge. I don't mind the 65 mile drive to Nogales (75MPH speed limit helps) but it's the getting back over that takes more time than driving there.

There are times I flirt with the idea of seeing an American Dentist, but I get on Yelp for Comments about local dental clinic's and I'm right back to returning to Mexico.
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Old 07-02-2020, 11:08 PM
 
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I'm a dentist that places implants. Yes they are more expensive than crowns/bridges/partials but the patient satisfaction is much higher. The cost for me to purchase the implants is higher than crowns/bridges so it's a wash for me. Yes the best option is not the cheapest, like most areas of life. Dental "insurance" rarely covers implants. Most dentists are tired of hearing patients complain about the lesser alternatives and recurrent cavities around crowns. Implants will never get a cavity. Although they can get gum disease around them like regular teeth if you don't take care of them. I encourage trips to Mexico because re-doing those cases is much more expensive and is sending my kids to college. But get whatever you want.



This is a nice gentleman I saw yesterday. His implant was placed in Mexico 1 year ago and placed outside the bone and now he is having pain. I've never heard a patient say "it didn't work out but at least it was cheap!"

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Old 07-06-2020, 03:11 PM
 
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I had a patient balk at my implant fee, saying he could get the "same thing" for 1/3 the cost back in India.


I told him there is a guy in India who will do his job for 1/3 the salary also. He didn't see the connection.


Came back about a year later complaining of pain. I look and see this disgusting mess of infection around an implant that looked like Stevie Wonder placed it. He got it done in India, since after all it was the "same thing" I was offering.



Told him how much it would cost to remove it and start over. He said he'll get it done in India because it's cheaper.


Can't fix stupid.
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Old 07-25-2020, 10:36 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I was considering implants after an upper tooth had to be extracted due to a malformed root. It sounded like a great idea at the time. But the dental surgeon I was referred to did X-rays and told me that I wasn't a candidate. My sinus cavities were positioned too low, he said, and there wasn't enough jaw bone to hold the post. So I got a bridge instead. It was a type of old-fashioned bridge they don't make any more. It was a fixed bridge, but it was installed by my old-school dentist using a technique that preserved nearly all the adjoining teeth.

Fast forward twenty-five years. The old school dentist had long since retired and passed away. Over time the bridge he installed deteriorated and finally fell out. My current dentist took a look and suggested...an implant. When I told her why I wasn't a candidate, she said that the dental surgeon could do a procedure that would build up the bone above the missing tooth, and then I could still have the implant.

I thought about it but decided against it. Sacrificing the two adjoining teeth for a standard fixed bridge seemed like the wiser choice. I was concerned that a bone graft and implant might cause infection, pain or other problems. Implants also cost more and require more visits. So I went with the bridge instead, and I'm happy that I did. Implants may be permanent, but at my age (71), a bridge is just as likely to last me the rest of my life.
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Old 07-26-2020, 01:56 PM
 
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I was considering implants after an upper tooth had to be extracted due to a malformed root. It sounded like a great idea at the time. But the dental surgeon I was referred to did X-rays and told me that I wasn't a candidate. My sinus cavities were positioned too low, he said, and there wasn't enough jaw bone to hold the post. So I got a bridge instead. It was a type of old-fashioned bridge they don't make any more. It was a fixed bridge, but it was installed by my old-school dentist using a technique that preserved nearly all the adjoining teeth.

Fast forward twenty-five years. The old school dentist had long since retired and passed away. Over time the bridge he installed deteriorated and finally fell out. My current dentist took a look and suggested...an implant. When I told her why I wasn't a candidate, she said that the dental surgeon could do a procedure that would build up the bone above the missing tooth, and then I could still have the implant.

I thought about it but decided against it. Sacrificing the two adjoining teeth for a standard fixed bridge seemed like the wiser choice. I was concerned that a bone graft and implant might cause infection, pain or other problems. Implants also cost more and require more visits. So I went with the bridge instead, and I'm happy that I did. Implants may be permanent, but at my age (71), a bridge is just as likely to last me the rest of my life.
This is my situation. I wanted an implant but the periodontist says my sinus cavity is too low and a 3 tooth fixed bridge is best. If my general dentist doesn't feel that this is a good option, she will do a sinus lift for me. I'm still investigating this. I had the broken tooth and root removed this past Thursday. I have a thread on this here.
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