12-31-2010, 11:26 AM
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Yeah I would probably give it a try, and then let you know how it goes. LOL Another long commute question: do many people commute to Denver from Colorado Springs? The cousin that has the Keystone condo lives there, in the northern part near I-25 & Briargate Parkway. They would also let me stay at their house while looking for a permanent place in Denver, but it would be about an hour to many parts of the metro except the southern area. What is the I-25 commute like coming in from the south? I seem to remember it is pretty awful as you get closer to Parker. I know the Palmer Divide can also be more snowy than other areas in the winter. It would be a similar situation where I could live for free (for a few months), but without the great scenery of the mountains.
12-31-2010, 11:55 AM
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It would be a similar situation where I could live for free (for a few months), but without the great scenery of the mountains.
No such thing as "living for free." You're paying for it one way or another... whether that's shifting the bills from rent and utilities to increased automobile expenses, increased food expenses (you'll probably be eating out, on the go, more often), the cost of your time (for people who work hard for a living, time IS money, isn't it?), the cost on all the added stress of commuting on your health, etc. And also, having an address on your resume that is perceived as too far of a commute to your work locations will hurt your job search efforts.
I also disagree with the second part of your statement. Colorado Springs and the drive from Colo Spgs through the southern reaches of the Denver metro area IS pretty top gun scenery, IMO. And especially this time of year, with a long drive to/from the mountains it will be dark on your way to from work anyway-- the only scenery you'll be seeing is the reflected white lines on the pavement and the tail lights of the car in front of you.
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Yeah I would probably give it a try, and then let you know how it goes. LOL Another long commute question: do many people commute to Denver from Colorado Springs? The cousin that has the Keystone condo lives there, in the northern part near I-25 & Briargate Parkway. They would also let me stay at their house while looking for a permanent place in Denver, but it would be about an hour to many parts of the metro except the southern area. What is the I-25 commute like coming in from the south? I seem to remember it is pretty awful as you get closer to Parker. I know the Palmer Divide can also be more snowy than other areas in the winter. It would be a similar situation where I could live for free (for a few months), but without the great scenery of the mountains.
To answer your question, commuting from Colorado Springs would be difficult and not recommended. Traffic can be very bad at times, and weather on the Palmer Divide can be a problem and the road occasionally closes.
But, If it's just a matter of crashing on a couch for a month or two, you probably could do either place but northern Colorado Springs would be closer and have fewer problems with weather. Once you actually get your job then you'd be advised to find a place close to work.
Since you don't know where your job might be, it's probably a good idea to take advantage of the free place to stay in CS, even if it leads to a long commute as you drive to interviews, that sort of thing. It's because you don't want to sign a 12 month lease in highlands ranch and then find out that you get a job in Boulder and have to break your lease.
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To answer your question, commuting from Colorado Springs would be difficult and not recommended. Traffic can be very bad at times, and weather on the Palmer Divide can be a problem and the road occasionally closes.
But, If it's just a matter of crashing on a couch for a month or two, you probably could do either place but northern Colorado Springs would be closer and have fewer problems with weather. Once you actually get your job then you'd be advised to find a place close to work.
Since you don't know where your job might be, it's probably a good idea to take advantage of the free place to stay in CS, even if it leads to a long commute as you drive to interviews, that sort of thing. It's because you don't want to sign a 12 month lease in highlands ranch and then find out that you get a job in Boulder and have to break your lease.
I won't move to Colorado until I have a job. Until construction picks up that may be awhile. Living in the mountains or, more likely, Colorado Springs will be while I'm working but looking for a permanent place to live. Is there not an RTD bus that goes to Colorado Springs? Seems like I remember one that did, and it stopped at the Capital. Not sure where it went in the Springs though, anyone know? If my project was downtown that would be an option and would save gas. But as a construction project manager my job could be anywhere the company I am working for is building something.
01-01-2011, 05:15 PM
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Yes...there is a bus for that trip. The RTD web site goes into details.
I'm not sure that construction will pick up in this area for AWHILE.
If I was less than 30 or so, I would live in Keystone and ski, ski, and ski. Do whatever to pay the bills. Working at a ski resort would solve all problems. You would never regret a mis-spent winter. The days are growing longer while I type this......
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I'm not sure that construction will pick up in this area for AWHILE.
Yeah that is a major problem. I won't move to Colorado and become another statistic of someone from the South/Midwest moving to Denver to compete with everyone else for the few jobs available. I'll continue to monitor it over the next year or so but I'm not holding my breath either. I'll probably be headed to CS if or when that does happen until I could find a place in Denver. Head up to the condo in the mountains on the weekends.
And I'm in 25 and would love to be a ski bum but would feel too much like a, well, bum. I'm very career-oriented and would like to own a business in the next several years, in Denver.
01-02-2011, 06:16 PM
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Honestly, I just don't think either commute is worth it.
There's only so many ways in and out of the mountains, and the minute bad weather hits up there (which may or may not affect Denver), you could find yourself stuck for a bit.
I work with a guy who lives south of the Palmer Divide outside of Colorado Springs and he worries every time the word "snow" even pops up on the news. The weather over the Divide can be very unpredictable.
Those that have mentioned that your daily commute would likely be largely in the dark are correct, which cuts into a scenic drive home, plus your commute becomes substantially longer, which I suspect would cut into your time...well, enjoying living in the mountains. Why not live closer in and take advantage of the mountains on days off? Even a city like Golden would be more reasonable and would put you in the foothills, close to plenty of recreation...hiking, skiing, fishing, biking, etc...
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Even a city like Golden would be more reasonable and would put you in the foothills, close to plenty of recreation...hiking, skiing, fishing, biking, etc...
I was going to suggest Golden or even Evergreen.
Back in the 70's, I had a boyfriend (now husband) who commuted to Denver from Evergreen every day. I think he lasted a year before moving down.
I also had a co-worker who commuted from
Longmont every day! Back then, the highway (and Denver itself) was not as crowded as it is now.
Much more recently, my son had a high school teacher who lived off the grid somewhere up in the boonies, I can't remember exactly where. Every time the weather was bad, the school just had to assume this teacher would not be showing up.
Zenkonami, my husband used to have to go to the Springs all the time, and I always worried during wintry weather. One of my absolute worst white knuckle memories is driving to a Christmas party at Briargate. Bad weather was expected--and came--but my husband was determined that we attend this event. We made our appearance, but spent far more time on the road dodging wrecks than partying.
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)