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Thank you so much for starting and maintaining this thread livecontent. Good public transit is one of the most significant criteria in selecting a city to relocate to.
Most helpful.
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I resurrected this thread to have the current readers to think more about using their cars less. I wanted to describe honestly about a bus trip but the muses took over and I good a little poetic. I wanted to say that the buses were more crowded than I ever saw and I having been using them for years as a full paying customer.
I should tell you about the "dregs" of society. If you have read my post, you know I am disabled, and sometimes I can look it, sometimes not. I have to use sometimes "the stick", as my niece calls it, to walk when it becomes more difficult. I could have taken the Access a Ride Bus for the disabled to be picked up and transported to my destination for $3.00. However, on days that a person feels better then you can take any bus for free. Yes, I could have driven but taking the bus gives me much needed exercise--and it was such a crystal clear day in Denver.
My lonely part of my trip was returning from downtown on the express bus, during rush hour to one of the park and rides---I have noticed the more educated people are, the more they want to be isolated from each other, and that is where you get more of the intentional "non look" and the severe expressions, saying to me "go away" we do not acknowledge you. "You better not sit by me", "I am not moving over, my bag is on the seat--move on" "Do not shake your palsy hands in front of me", "Get your stick out of my way" I see it all in their expressions. Some educated and well off people want conformity and do not want to see anything but their pristine perfect lives and I see it, I perceive it, and I cry for them, because of it. These are in my words "The Perfects" vs, "The Dregs"
In taking a bus with the other "dregs", some people talk to me, they smile and most important people acknowledge my existence. Many are lonely, aged, want to be heard, and see me as a safe person. I do see the same behavior as the "perfects" but much less of it--maybe the "dregs" in seeing differences gives them an immunity.
Yet, there is a much kindness you see and feel, in both "perfects" and "dreg" but many time you have to look to perceive. Some people in both groups do not want to move out of their self-perceived conformity.
We are all "dregs". We are all "perfects". As our body and mind changes, we move from the perfect innocent child to the dregs of aged infirmity. "All Dregs" were at one time "perfects" and try and succeed to be "perfects' again. Some "perfects" were, in their life struggle "dregs" and may become "dregs" sooner then when they are old.
So "perfects" be aware that your comfortable conformity can change suddenly--it did for me.
livecontent
I love this post and I love this thread! Thank you livecontent. That "dregs" crack really rubbed me the wrong way, and you addressed it with far more substance and philosophy and wisdom and poetry than I ever could.
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Hey livecontent, the only problem i have with what you post is this:
I applaud you for taking steps to live what you believe.
I have the same problem.
09-17-2009, 08:09 PM
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I am happy that this thread has been helpful to all. The public transit in the Denver Metro area has improved substantially over the years. Unfortunately we are in an economic depression that is denied by some, but apparent to many. This has hurt the funding for further expansion of the system under the Fastracks project. It is still going along and there is construction but the future is starting to look someone cloudy. Eventually all will come together but "when?" is the big question. However, many areas of Denver metro can still be livable without a car or encourage a car less life.
There is more of momentum today than when I started this thread about building more transit oriented developments (TOD). What is also good is that "Thrift" and living a more simple life is becoming more an idea in mainstream thought. Giving up feeding the auto beast is certainly a good way toward that goal.
I am still have not given up my little beast but he is being feed less. I have been able go 163 miles in the five weeks, since my last petro feed. I am trying to bring myself below 2000 miles a years versus the 2500 miles a year that I have been extravagantly driving for the past few years. My biggest problem (and joy) is that I have parents in their 80s that do not live off a bus route, and I need to provide some filial obligations. In addition, my ability of mobility is diminishing and a wheelchair may be in the future, but the thought of a wheelchair van is not what I want. Perhaps I will get one of those little electric mobility scooters; souped up with racing strips and able to go that "salt flat" record speed of 8 mph. Maybe that will not be so bad; it is said that girls in their sixties and beyond find those sexy...vvvvrhoommm....
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09-18-2009, 02:51 PM
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FitKate,
Thanks for the link. It does reiterate issues that I have been saying. I think biking is great option and Denver and the suburbs does offer many commuter trails in the area. In this area, we treat waterways with respect, as there are few. Most of the creeks have paved paths. I view the Platte River Green Way as the main artery with clear creek, cherry creek, bear creek as exits off the main bike highway. It would be nice if we could built businesses along the Platte that are directly accessible by bike; that is just bordering the trail. We can have bike repair shops, stores, restaurants. In a way it could resemble the walk in San Antonio, TX.
I haved lived in New York City and the article does say that it is not bike friendly. However, not all cities in all places are good for bicycles. NYC is a good place to live without a car; in fact it is the norm for many people---they do not have a driver's license. I know I would not enjoy biking in most areas of city and the public transit is very good, so riding a bike would not be as advantages.
Boulder is excellent place to live without a car. Most areas are very dense with great public transit that is supplemented by the City of Boulder to RTD service. That is the case in many college towns that want to encourage other forms of transit. Biking is good in Boulder but can be somewhat dangerous in parts because of the density and the heavy traffic. Boulder is expensive to live but doing without a car can balance the costs.
I did live in Boulder when I was younger and enjoyed the experience. But today, being a senior citizen, I just do not want to be around an area dominate by the college youth; I enjoy the more diverse, quieter suburbs of Denver. Arvada, where I live is also noted for the expansive trails and parks, and it is has easy access to Denver.
Public transit is many areas of Denver suburbs is excellent to non-existent. The older contiguous suburbs have the better transit and as you go out in the newer developments, a car is more necessary. With the extension of the commuter rail, we will see better public transit in the farther suburban areas. So, the important idea is to pick wisely where one choices to live to have these car free options.
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Another way to get around downtown without a car. I was at the bike share launch yesterday. here are some photos-
the mayor-
bike parade-
Check out the map at
http://denver.bcycle.com . they should be adding more stations this summer so hopefully we will see a lot of red bikes around the city
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Thanks for the link. I have been anticipating the launch of this program. It will help tremendously with short trips in Denver. Now, if we can get more of the cars off the street in the Downtown area--that would be even more ideal because riding a bike on some of those traveled streets can be real challenging. However, you do have the Cherry Creek Bike Trail to get you nicely to some areas but the 16th Street Mall is off limits to bicycles.
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Thanks for the link. I have been anticipating the launch of this program. It will help tremendously with short trips in Denver. Now, if we can get more of the cars off the street in the Downtown area--that would be even more ideal because riding a bike on some of those traveled streets can be real challenging. However, you do have the Cherry Creek Bike Trail to get you nicely to some areas but the 16th Street Mall is off limits to bicycles.
Livecontent
I consider myself a pretty brave biker, having riden throughout NYC including times square many times before they got rid of the cars there. but I am still often nervous riding the streets of denver because the cars drive so fast, even through the middle of downtown. I hope denver learns from new york and takes back some of that road space for bikes and pedestrians.
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I consider myself a pretty brave biker, having riden throughout NYC including times square many times before they got rid of the cars there. but I am still often nervous riding the streets of denver because the cars drive so fast, even through the middle of downtown. I hope denver learns from new york and takes back some of that road space for bikes and pedestrians.
You are a brave soul. I tried biking in NYC and it certainly raised a scare in my young body.
I see the bike messengers downtown but less than many years ago; probably another victim of instant communication.
They certainly know how to zoom around traffic. I think Denver has done a great job in providing good bike and pedestrian friendly paths.
I tend to look at the Platte as the superhighway of biking through the area with the cherry creek, bear creek, other trails/paths as the main bike arterial. The more you avoid mixing cars with bicycles the better.
Many years ago, I did this night ride through downtown Denver. It is great event and it is held every year
2010 Kaiser Permanente MOONLIGHT CLASSIC ::: July 17, 2010 ::: See Denver in a whole new light! I highly recommend it.
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)