06-20-2011, 12:49 AM
Location: San Ramon
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My wife and I are considering a move to either Bellevue and suburbs areas or the Denver suburbs areas. We were just curious as to what you thought?
Both have interesting places and access to interesting physical features; and both have interesting neighborhoods. We like the Littleton and SW/SE areas of Denver, as well as the foothills in the west and even Parker (although it's too far out from downtown). Those places have access to the airport, mountains, and are nice neighborhoods.
In WA, we like Issaquah, Kirkland, Eastern Bellevue, and Juanita areas - they seem to be nice too, but maybe quite a bit more expensive than the Denver suburbs (we are on a budget of 350 to 400k for a home). The weather in Denver seems sunnier, but there's snow and some freezing in the winter; but rain and clouds in Bellevue. The green in Bellevue is really nice, and of course the lakes are neat. There's no state income tax in WA either.
Both have theatre, pro sports and nice people. Both seem to have traffic issues though. I've heard that both places are neat.
Would really love to hear your thoughts just off the top of your head.
06-20-2011, 01:33 PM
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I think before you look for neighborhoods, you should choose which of these two areas you would be happier in - they are SO different.
Cost of Living in Bellevue & the East Side areas you mentioned is WAY higher than in the Denver area. Can you afford to maintain your desired lifestyle?
The weather is totally different. Some people can't handle the altitude of Denver or the snow. Some people can't tolerate the number of gray days or rainy days of the Pacific Northwest.
If you have health considerations - research both areas as they are both extreme. I have asthma and severe mold allergies and thus am choosing not to return to the northwest at this time. Seattlites joke that they don't age, they just go moldy. Denver is supposed to be better for folks with these issues.
The traffic in the greater Seattle area, and that includes Bellevue and all the communities you mentioned, is much heavier than Denver (though, Seattlites do tend to be a *little* friendlier than most other big traffic cities, so it's not bad like DC or SoCal.).
The topography, while both enjoy mountain views, is so different. While I am considering a move to Denver and have lived away from Seattle for 13 years, I am homesick for the Pacific Northwest every. single. day. Nothing beats a snow capped Mount Baker peaking out of a gray sky broken by the sunrise. Or watching the sunset over the San Juans.
I have lived in Bellevue & Kirkland (and downtown Seattle, Lynnwood, Bellingham...you get the idea) and worked in Issaquah, Factoria, south Seattle, Lynnwood. There are tons of great areas there. I loved Kirkland and if I had the income, I would consider living there again. I also really love downtown Edmonds & Ballard, if you are not committed to the East side.
I am currently researching Denver myself and have been to visit twice now. I just don't see how you can compare the two. But I do wish you luck - either way - you are shopping to awesome places.
06-20-2011, 10:36 PM
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Do you like dry plains & foothills near the rockies (although the last 2 months this year have been reminiscent of Seattle); or green scenery and beautiful lakes near the Cascades?
Soon-to-be rail access to Denver, or to Seattle?
Near the continental divide, or near the Puget Sound?
Weekends in the Rockies, or weekends in the San Juans?
06-24-2011, 01:17 AM
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I have now lived in both areas, Denver being the place we just moved from, and Bellevue the plce we reside now. I will agree.... As much as some would think similarity,,,, they are soooooooo different. First this similarities: Mountains, outdoor activities, scenery.
Differences: Cost of living! Much more expensive in the greated Seattle area (Bellevue even more!) than the Denver area. You will geat MUCH more bang for your buck in the out-skirts of Denver than you would in WA. Especially if you're planning on buying. Both have booming economies considering the state of the nation at this point so both are win-win investments.
Consider this: rainy and moist, or sunny and dry... Denver a small yard will cost a $70 water bill monthy to keep it lush and green; Bellevue, chances of sun are 50/50 and your lawn will grow like a weed (probably investing the same $ in a good mower to keep it manicured.
Both Places are WIN-WIN. I have nothing bad to say about Denver other than It not having such heart beat of its own like ofhter cities do. Great Mexican food in Denver, great Asian food in Seattle.
Colorado is a LAND-LOCKED STATE! not much swimming options other than rivers, and "Waterworld" Seattle will make you want to buy a boat, eventhough you can only selectively use it during the summer depending on th weather.Colorado will make you want to buy a Jeep; The old mining roads (jeep trails now! check out [URL="http://www.traildamage.com"]www.traildamage.com[/URL]) Both places have GREAT beer, good food, Traffic is deffinitely worse in WA rather than CO.
Hope this helps! Cheers
06-26-2011, 01:56 AM
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We live on the Eastside of Seattle for many years now and seriously considering moving to Denver! Don't get me wrong, Seattle is a great place to live but unfortunately you don't get much chance to enjoy the beauty of the state because of the gloomy/rainy weather. I've posted in other threads earlier, this year has been the absolute worst and many-many people I know are considering moving. Yes, typically we don't get a lot of snow but that's not true for the past several years. We've had quite a bit of snow and icy roads, most of the year is very damp, moldy, with grey sky and super short summers, maybe couple of weeks all together. If you don't mind the weather, I'd say it's a great place to live, especially in the areas you mentioned! Bets of luck to you with decision making, it's not as easy as it seems
06-30-2011, 10:30 PM
Location: Portland OR
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This is an interesting thread. While I have not visited the Bellevue area specifically, I live nearby in Portland and have spent considerable time in Colorado. My sister-in-law lives in Leadville and I have spent both summers and winters in Colorado.
I moved to PDX in November with a full time job (I am a small animal veterinarian). My husband is in school here. In May, my full time job abruptly became less than part-time due to a very slow clinic schedule. My husband has always planned to work during school but has had an abysmal time finding even part time work. The economy here in Portland is SOOOOOO BAD. I am not sure about the Seattle area and hope it is better.
About cost of living, the PNW is not CA expensive but not midwestern cheap either. Rent here is about 800-1100/month for a decent sized apartment although I am sure some can be found cheaper.
Both the Denver area and the PNW are beautiful in their own ways. The green here in Portland is almost palpable but I have not seen the sun in consecutive days since I moved here in November. I am getting seriously tired of clouds. I really miss those 1pm thunderstorms from Colorado and the purplish color of sky in the mtns. that I have only ever seen in CO.
Portland and the PNW are beautiful but as many have said be sure to have a job before you move here and even then as I found out there is no guarantee.
My husband and I are hoping to move to the Denver area as they have wonderful animal hospitals (and a terrific vet school nearby in Ft. Collins) and is very dog friendly. I realize that economic times are difficult everywhere but I am hoping that the Denver area is even slightly better than Portland
07-01-2011, 08:24 AM
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Both the Denver area and the PNW are beautiful in their own ways. The green here in Portland is almost palpable but I have not seen the sun in consecutive days since I moved here in November. I am getting seriously tired of clouds. I really miss those 1pm thunderstorms from Colorado and the purplish color of sky in the mtns. that I have only ever seen in CO.
What I like about summers in Denver are that while they may be mostly dry and sunny just about everyday storms still build up over the mountains. Most days the clouds from those storms blow over the city in late afternoon/early evening cooling it down and setting the stage for some beautiful sunsets. There is always the chance for an isolated storm in Denver during the summer with more widespread rain in the spring.
Another big difference between a Denver rain and a Seattle rain is how cold it can be in Denver. Because of the city's high elevation when it rains it can drop the temps. sometimes 30 degrees. If it rains in the evening during the summer you might've had shorts and a t-shirt on when it was 85 degrees earlier in the day but after a rain and nightfall the temp. can plummet into the 50's.
07-01-2011, 08:30 AM
Location: Arvada, CO
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My husband and I are hoping to move to the Denver area as they have wonderful animal hospitals (and a terrific vet school nearby in Ft. Collins )
63 miles from downtown.
48 miles from the extreme northern point of the metro area.
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People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)