09-18-2013, 07:32 PM
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Asked one plumbing company and just by size/build (kitchen and toilet on main, two bathrooms upstairs) of house, it should not exceed $3k, more like $2500 for all PEX pipe replacement so I'm leaning towards replacing them.
It'll also help when I sell the house. I can claim all PB plumbing replaced.
The catch is, they don't fix the drywalls after cutting holes so either I have to reseal and paint the wall or find someone to do that.
I'll be painting whole interior anyways so painting is not an issue, but fixing drywall is.
That doesn't seem too bad. Is the drywall textured or smooth?
I did not know that stuff was so problematic. I am just finishing a house build right now and they used all PEX. Is was a little leary about it, but read up on it and feel good. I like copper. It's easy to work on, but PEX seems to be a very good product.
09-19-2013, 09:29 AM
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That doesn't seem too bad. Is the drywall textured or smooth?
Not sure.
Here is a picture.
It
feels smooth but does not
look completely smooth. It's just like what apartments have.
Even the ceiling is popcorn ceiling.
I got a quote for anywhere between $1800-$2600 for PEX pipe replacement so not too bad.
I'll research more and may get even cheaper.
Do you guys have an idea on how much of that amount is labor and how much is material?
PEX pipes at Homedepot are very cheap.
Cheaper 3/4" 100ft. roll is less than $30.
Most expensive Sharkbite version is around $800 so most is just on the installation.
That's a lot of money to route plastic tube around the house.
I may have to find a handyman and buy PEX tubes myself. thanks
Edit: The quote was for this pipe: Wirsbo AquaPEX.
300ft roll of 1" tube is $372:
http://www.amazon.com/Uponor-Wirsbo-...irsbo+1+tubing
300ft roll of 3/4" is even cheaper @ 187:
http://www.amazon.com/Uponor-Wirsbo-...o+3%2F4+tubing
100ft roll of 3/4" is only $62:
http://www.amazon.com/Uponor-Wirsbo-...o+3%2F4+tubing
I think this house uses
150-200 ft. Not sure if all are 1" or 3/4".
Anyways, looks like material is not even $400 even with 1" pipe and full 300ft length.
I've seen videos where the PEX tubes are inserted through holes to avoid breaking down walls/ceilings as they can be easily contoured.
If that's the case, that's some expensive contouring.
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09-19-2013, 11:30 AM
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No possible way I would trust a "handyman" to open my walls and install plumbing. That could be a disaster waiting to happen. I would only trust a licensed ans insured plumber with an excellent reputation. You never regret spending money once the job is finished. You only regret it when you don't spend it.
09-19-2013, 12:26 PM
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No possible way I would trust a "handyman" to open my walls and install plumbing. That could be a disaster waiting to happen. I would only trust a licensed ans insured plumber with an excellent reputation. You never regret spending money once the job is finished. You only regret it when you don't spend it.
Ya that's the scary part.
I'll check with few companies and see what I get.
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It's definitely textured. That is cheaper than getting a completely smooth finish. That's a good thing for you.
09-20-2013, 09:27 AM
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It's definitely textured. That is cheaper than getting a completely smooth finish. That's a good thing for you.
Okay thanks.
So I think hiring a licensed plumber for pipe replacement and then hiring a handyman for drywall repair is better way to go.
10-14-2013, 10:09 AM
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House closing is this week.
Bad news is I'm losing job in December so need to do critical fixes only like plumbing, interior paint and carpet.
Everything else has to wait.
The fun begins.
10-22-2013, 01:22 PM
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Got quote from the guy and it's $3.6k with county inspection and without dry wall repairs.
That's quite a bit more from his initial guesstimate.
I don't understand why it's so freaking expensive.
The pipe is less than $200 and another $300 for accessories like valves, T-joints, crimps, washers etc...
I understand there is additional cost for equipment, license, insurance etc... plus labor, but still. Dang!
Basement is unfinished and I can see all the pipes right there going to garden hose, kitchen and 1/2 bath on main level.
I think I can replace pipes in the basement myself for the kitchen and main level bath as there is no need to tear down the dry wall for that.
Besides that, there is connection for washer/dryer on the main level and two bathrooms on 2nd floor.
That's a lot of dinero for routing a plastic pipe to 2nd floor to 3 sinks, 2 toilets, 2 showers and a tub.
I may go do the plumbing certification myself and still come ahead.
Any DIY'ers here?
10-28-2013, 10:51 AM
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No possible way I would trust a "handyman" to open my walls and install plumbing. That could be a disaster waiting to happen. I would only trust a licensed ans insured plumber with an excellent reputation. You never regret spending money once the job is finished. You only regret it when you don't spend it.
Back to the topic.
A licensed/insured plumbing company is doing the work but looks like he does have helpers doing most of the work.
So I guess I'm okay even though I consider helper as a handyman.
He will be using 3/4" lines and then 1/2" to fixtures, copper pipe in/around HWH with frost free pipes to the garden hoses.
For the joints he will be using heat/friction based coupling instead of copper crimps. He said they are better.
He'll try as much as possible to cut a square piece of drywall so he can put/screw it back on the wall.
Once that's done, I'm not sure if I can put some drywall putty and paint over it or need additional drywall work.
10-28-2013, 12:43 PM
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Back to the topic.
A licensed/insured plumbing company is doing the work but looks like he does have helpers doing most of the work.
So I guess I'm okay even though I consider helper as a handyman.
He will be using 3/4" lines and then 1/2" to fixtures, copper pipe in/around HWH with frost free pipes to the garden hoses.
For the joints he will be using heat/friction based coupling instead of copper crimps. He said they are better.
He'll try as much as possible to cut a square piece of drywall so he can put/screw it back on the wall.
Once that's done, I'm not sure if I can put some drywall putty and paint over it or need additional drywall work.
You're going to have to try to blend the texture from the old drywall. Get a good look at it, take a picture, and then go talk to to someone at a paint store and get their advice on matching if you plan to DYI.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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