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Old 12-16-2014, 09:28 AM
 
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I have to agree with everyone else. I moved here 20 yrs ago as a single, and although I'm married now I've gone all over by myself and never once felt threatened in an area. I used to love to dine on Colfax, which used to and maybe still does, have a reputation. The hole in the wall restaurants I would go to looked rough. But in reality it was quite safe. I would drive my Lexus and park next to the BMWs, Mercedes and Audis while dining there. The only area I avoid is 16th street mall because of smokers but that is just my preference. I've had no problem walking or dining there when I've been downtown to the performing arts center or for any other activity. I also don't like Pearl St. Mall in Boulder because of beggars.

The only area I've really considered dangerous is downtown when the bars let out and close down. I've always heard bad things about the drunks pouring onto the street but never experienced it myself as I don't go.
At closing time in Denver's LoDo, a flaring of fights, tempers, arrests - The Denver Post

In terms of areas to live if you post what your looking for then areas can be suggested. In reality an area can be quite safe but may look old, run down, rough, not gentrified, etc to one person but quaint, historic, urban, vibrant to another. As an example I know someone who bought a very expensive scrape and build in Cherry Creek. The area looked very nice and was a mix of million dollar new builds and older quaint homes. They never felt unsafe. However occasionally they came home to someone peeing on the car tires of a car parked outside their house. This made them uncomfortable and they eventually sold as the fact that there were people around so uncouth as to pee on the tires outside their home was not a good feeling for them. They were suburban people through and through. As am I. I like not having the general public wandering through my neighborhood.

With your budget you will likely end up in a more upscale area but it all depends on your comfort level with the infrastructure and what you see around you. I personally like a nice upper middle class neighborhood with walking access to everything including nature trails. I like the infrastructure (sidewalks, stores etc) to be newer. And I like a generous amount of privacy between the homes. So that is what I choose for myself but I see the appeal of the older areas. I enjoy visiting them for restaurants, visiting businesses or seeing people I know at their houses. Certainly the burbs may give the appearance of greater safety but in reality I don't know if that is really true. The whole metro area is generally safe.

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Old 12-16-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Your answer is confusing as you say crimes are irrelevant as its just thefts but then you say I need to be in a 65+ neighborhood to be safe? I am just looking for a straight answer as to where to avoid or where is actually safe.
I did NOT write 65+ to be safe. I wrote 65+ (Windsor Gardens is a giant old folks project) for SAFEST. Relative, not absolute.

Why don't you look at the crime stats for yourself?

Start with maps
Download this http://www.denvergov.org/denvermaps/...ghborhoods.pdf
and then look at
Search Results

Crime stats are at
http://www.denvergov.org/police/Poli...0/Default.aspx
I have concluded that I am highly unlikely (almost zero chance) of being a crime victim as I: park my car in a garage, lock my doors and am in bed by 2200.
If you are spending $2+K on rent, then you will be living in a relatively safe neighborhood.
Read this
Top ten safest neighborhoods in Denver | Westword (By the way, #4 on the list, Belcaro, had a quintuple murder in 2012. Fero's Bar & Grill: See the men arrested in quintuple homicide-arson (39-43) | Westword)

Want to see where people of different races live in greater Denver?
Surf to Front Range Race/Ethnicity
or download the csv file from http://data.denvergov.org/dataset/ci...ographics-2010
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Its very nice to hear that Denver is LGBT friendly so I will more than likely look in the Denver city limits. I am extremely flexible housing wise and am not turned off by a 30 minute commute. I am mostly looking for what is the SAFEST place to live and will adjust my living arrangements to the safest locations housing availability. I don't mind outdated or not so fancy living arrangements as long as the locals are nice and my family is safe. A yard would be nice but to start I am fine with an apartment and then can consider an actual house after living in the area for a few months. I am just trying to find a good landing spot to establish my family and see if Denver will be a good fit. I'm just hoping to end up in a neighborhood that has lower crime. If there are any suburbs that you may recommend avoiding that are not as LGBT friendly I would appreciate that information as well.
Do you have kids? I live in Stapleton, which is extremely gay friendly, and there are many gay/lesbian couples here with kids. You could most likely rent a small house (3 bdr is about the smallest) or condo/townhome (easier to find one for rent) in the $2500 - $3K range). My partner/husband and I are a bi-racial couple w/biracial kids, and we love Stapleton.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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if somebody doesn't like who you are you can have a gun pulled on you for no reason at all
This is inconceivable to me. Literally. I have lived in the City & County of Denver for 30+ years and cannot imagine this happening.

In 1982 I did my grocery shopping at Queen Soopers (King Soopers - Southeast - Denver, CO | Yelp) and never detected any hostility towards the gay boys prancing in the aisles. That was 30+ years ago.

One of our City Council members (https://www.denvergov.org/district12...9/Default.aspx) is a short lesbian who lives 2 blocks from me and I am sure she feels safe walking around.

My state senator (Senator Lucia Guzman - President Pro Tempore - Colorado Senate District 34) is a lesbian.

On the other hand, you might want to avoid Colorado Springs - Klingenschmitt Performed Gay Exorcism on Rape Victim http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...sm-rape-victim

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Old 12-16-2014, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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This is inconceivable to me. Literally. I have lived in the City & County of Denver for 30+ years and cannot imagine this happening.

In 1982 I did my grocery shopping at Queen Soopers (King Soopers - Southeast - Denver, CO | Yelp) and never detected any hostility towards the gay boys prancing in the aisles. That was 30+ years ago.

One of our City Council members (https://www.denvergov.org/district12...9/Default.aspx) is a short lesbian who lives 2 blocks from me and I am sure she feels safe walking around.

My state senator (Senator Lucia Guzman - President Pro Tempore - Colorado Senate District 34) is a lesbian.
Well, don't most people in Texas have a loaded gun at the ready?
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:02 PM
 
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The emphasis on safety is there because as a woman let alone a woman of color and a lesbian you are seen as more vulnerable and people tend to mess with you more than a white man or a woman with a male escort would be. It is good to see that top crime is petty but I would rather not come across the fewer percentage of serious/hard crime. Where would those areas be? I still haven't received an answer as to what areas are higher in crime. In all metros there is gang activity/drugs/etc I just want to be aware of what to avoid. I have even been in the "safest" neighborhoods in texas but if somebody doesn't like who you are you can have a gun pulled on you for no reason at all. Your answer is confusing as you say crimes are irrelevant as its just thefts but then you say I need to be in a 65+ neighborhood to be safe? I am just looking for a straight answer as to where to avoid or where is actually safe.
Anywhere you're paying close to 3K a month in rent in the Denver metro area will be safe.
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Old 12-20-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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Thank you all so very much for he positive feedback! I am so pleased to hear how tolerant Denver can be. I am much more at ease and looking very forward to this move.
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Old 12-20-2014, 06:40 PM
 
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Thank you all so very much for he positive feedback! I am so pleased to hear how tolerant Denver can be. I am much more at ease and looking very forward to this move.
While I certainly wouldn't describe any part of the Denver metro area as intolerant, the southern suburbs tend to be more conservative and more religious (at least more of the evangelical variety), and in general aren't as accepting with open arms. That said, I do know some gay people who live in those areas, and they've never felt hostility.
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