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Old 02-22-2016, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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No. Within cities, there will still be plenty of poverty kept in public housing. Ask New York, San Francisco, and Los Angeles how much they enjoy their "no crime".

I mean, regular people have to live somewhere, right? Don't some inherit housing? Didn't some buy or rent before things got expensive? Don't some criminals maintain normal lives....and work?

Come on now.

By the time this presumed and proposed gentrification is complete, and "all poor people are pushed out to the most undesirable suburbs", by then we would have also experienced another recession or two, which would have never allowed this situation to come to fruition in the first place.
Public housing should be removed no freebies sink or swim on your own merits.
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Public housing should be removed no freebies sink or swim on your own merits.
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Inequality is not wrong equality is! Some people are just inherently superior be it through hard work or superior intelligence we should do everything in our power to help these people as everyone benefits.
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Inequality is not wrong equality is! Some people are just inherently superior be it through hard work or superior intelligence we should do everything in our power to help these people as everyone benefits.
That's another discussion for another day. My greater point was that public housing isn't just going to go away (ever) just because you want it to.
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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That's another discussion for another day. My greater point was that public housing isn't just going to go away (ever) just because you want it to.
Well it is a breeding ground for crime
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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I have a solution create an urban growth boundary no more expansion or sprawl. Allow property to appreciate due to scarcity this will push out criminals who can no longer afford to live here. And bam we have a lovely city that has no sprawl full of wealthy educated people crime will drop like a rock.
Boulder
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Old 02-22-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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Gentrify the hell out of the remaining low-income neighborhoods and shift the gang crime to Aurora, Northglenn, Thorton, Commerce City, and other cheaper cities.
Odd view. From the city data stats for 2013 (last time reported):
Denver 383.3
Lakewood 376.6
Aurora 322

So then you want to try to export criminals to safer suburbs like Thornton and Northglenn. Over a hundred points safer before the recent Denver run up.
Thornton 230.6
Northglenn 250.3

What an interesting view you have. Instead of empowering the Denver police to solve their problem you want to try and shift the burden to better managed communities. Odd that you don't feel that people who can't afford to live in the gentrified communities are entitled to nice safe lower cost places to live. I certainly do.

Aurora seems to be doing something right also as they were rated the safest large city in Colorado for the last two years in a row. Certainly they are doing something right.
Aurora Named Safest Large City In Colorado 2nd Year In A Row « CBS Denver

If Denver is going down hill then the police need to step up and you should work toward empowering them to do so.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Berkeley Neighborhood, Denver, CO USA
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Solution: stop demonizing police for profiling people and arresting criminals.
You should spend time on NextDoor.com.
The "demonization" you refer to does not exist. At least in my neighborhood.
However, as a committed atheist, I do not believe that demonization actually exists at all.
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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Anyone think legalized weed has an effect on the crime? I don't live there yet, but I hear it's brought an influx of young homeless/drifters
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Boulder
Which does a lot of things right, mostly at the expense of economic diversity (is that something we would even want? Do we really want the entire metro area to be yuppified?). Boulder also has a preponderance of peeping toms.

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You should spend time on NextDoor.com.
The "demonization" you refer to does not exist. At least in my neighborhood.
However, as a committed atheist, I do not believe that demonization actually exists at all.
As a fellow adherent of your religion, do you at least believe that people imagine that demonization exists?
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