Downtown events marred by violence over weekend (Denver, Colorado Springs: camps, taxes)

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by Hschlick84

Denver in the early 80s, more grit, blue collared jobs, less yuppies and Californicated.

You are pining for a time and place you never experienced. You're 31 years old. All you know about early 80s Denver is stuff you've heard or read about. May as well wish to be living in Ancient Rome.

It's hilarious honestly. How about me saying Denver was pretty perfect in June of 1995. Why can't it always be like that? It's pure fantasy.

[randomparent]

Originally Posted by SQL

Downtown events marred by violence over weekend | FOX31 Denver

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I knew this was going to start becoming a problem. I experienced something very similar a couple weekends ago when my friends came to visit me. We were casually walking down the 16th Street Mall when one of these vagrants came up to me and started verbally assaulting me and following us. When we walked back down the mall later in the evening, the vagrant continued his barrage of insults towards me.

I am usually a pretty compassionate and understanding person. However, the homeless (vagrant) problem is out of control here, and it needs to be contained. Especially if this is how these people are going to start behaving. This is unacceptable.

Homeless and no bed at a shelter? Start a fight and get taken to jail for the night.

[pikabike]

That kind of thing does happen for the "benefits" ensuing.

While riding a bus that included a stop at the Jefferson County Taj Majal, which includes court functions, I overheard a bum telling a fellow bum that he got a free night in jail, with food and heat, because he deliberately got drunk and made a scene FOR THE PURPOSE OF GETTING SAID FREE LODGING AND MEALS. He was reading a newspaper (no doubt also free) and said this as casually as could be, and he said he had done it before.

[BornintheSprings]

Originally Posted by pikabike

That kind of thing does happen for the "benefits" ensuing.

While riding a bus that included a stop at the Jefferson County Taj Majal, which includes court functions, I overheard a bum telling a fellow bum that he got a free night in jail, with food and heat, because he deliberately got drunk and made a scene FOR THE PURPOSE OF GETTING SAID FREE LODGING AND MEALS. He was reading a newspaper (no doubt also free) and said this as casually as could be, and he said he had done it before.

We just need to criminalize homelessness throw em all in prison and make them work. If we actually had the stones to do it the city would be very pleasant without having to trip over vagrants as you walk around.

[pikabike]

Originally Posted by BornintheSprings

We just need to criminalize homelessness throw em all in prison and make them work. If we actually had the stones to do it the city would be very pleasant without having to trip over vagrants as you walk around.

Making them work is the missing piece. They do get thrown in jail sometimes but if that is seen as a reward, then the system needs to require work from these slackers. I mean work without pay, work that is done to pay back the costs of housing and feeding them. There is so much public works stuff that needs repair and not enough staff to do it, might as well get something back from the bums instead of letting them watch TV or, worse, providing them gyms for exercise! Right, so they can get strong enough to strangle people or overcome women they rape, yeah, what a great use of tax dollars.

This applies everywhere, not just Denver. The US needs to grow a backbone and make it more difficult for criminals and bums to exist, not easier.

[BornintheSprings]

Originally Posted by pikabike

Making them work is the missing piece. They do get thrown in jail sometimes but if that is seen as a reward, then the system needs to require work from these slackers. I mean work without pay, work that is done to pay back the costs of housing and feeding them. There is so much public works stuff that needs repair and not enough staff to do it, might as well get something back from the bums instead of letting them watch TV or, worse, providing them gyms for exercise! Right, so they can get strong enough to strangle people or overcome women they rape, yeah, what a great use of tax dollars.

This applies everywhere, not just Denver. The US needs to grow a backbone and make it more difficult for criminals and bums to exist, not easier.

Well said when I said put them to work I meant in the context of the prison system. Have it be done for no pay make the experience of being locked up miserable it SHOULD NOT be a vacation!

[davebarnes]

Originally Posted by BornintheSprings

We just need to criminalize homelessness throw em all in prison

1. Prison means sentences longer than 1 year. Are you serious?
2. Close to 50% of homeless people are mentally ill. So you would send people to prison for being crazy?

[Timmyy]

Originally Posted by Hschlick84

Denver in the early 80s, more grit, blue collared jobs, less yuppies and Californicated.

You must really dislike us Californians.

[BornintheSprings]

Originally Posted by davebarnes

1. Prison means sentences longer than 1 year. Are you serious?
2. Close to 50% of homeless people are mentally ill. So you would send people to prison for being crazy?

If they won't contribute voluntarily there needs to be some pressure applied no free rides.

[randomparent]

Originally Posted by Timmyy

You must really dislike us Californians.

Nothing new. Former Californians and Texans have been convenient scapegoats for decades, but best not go on too long about that less the anti-transplant brigade's ears start burning.