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Old 01-26-2020, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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I have lived in Denver since 2004, minus a 2 year stint in Chicago.

Personally, I found the professional culture in Chicago exhausting. The norm was working excruciating hours, stepping all over your colleagues to "get ahead," and quite frankly, a lack of work/life balance. This general attitude seemed to lead to a culture of rudeness and aggression in the workplace. I'm sorry, but that cutthroat culture seems very unprofessional.

Denver has a more laid back corporate culture, and I for one, like that. It isn't laziness... I know that my colleagues and I work very hard through the week. But, we don't feel guilty for leaving work at a reasonable hour and living our lives. And that whole East coast thing of making work your identity is quite frankly, sad. I suspect that Denver is not a good fit for the OP.
All this. The Denver attitude is 'work to live', not 'live to work'. I prefer it.
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Old 01-26-2020, 11:16 AM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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I have worked for a couple different large companies, and while there is a local slant to culture, I find that the head of the company sets the standards as much or more than the location.
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Old 01-27-2020, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Denver
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I'm with the poster who asked for specifics.

I can see where Denver has more people who more strictly enforce work-life separation because there are actually fun things to do outside of work here. Denver is also still very much an employees' market. Add on top that it's a relatively young workforce, most of whom laugh at workplace formalities and many of whom know we're on an environmental death march, and the corporate notions of motivation just completely fall apart.

I know that when I moved to Denver, it was after a corporate hellhole of an experience. I moved here for life outside of work, and I vowed to never work for a publicly traded company again. I even quit my first position here on the spot because my immediate superiors' lack of respect for my personal time/safety. After only a month, I managed to land an even better position with a significant pay bump and profit sharing, and I was rather upfront with my experiences and expectations up to that point. Many of the fellow transplants I know have similar attitudes, as have most superiors and clients I've worked with.
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Old 01-27-2020, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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I'm with the poster who asked for specifics.

I can see where Denver has more people who more strictly enforce work-life separation because there are actually fun things to do outside of work here. Denver is also still very much an employees' market. Add on top that it's a relatively young workforce, most of whom laugh at workplace formalities and many of whom know we're on an environmental death march, and the corporate notions of motivation just completely fall apart.

I know that when I moved to Denver, it was after a corporate hellhole of an experience. I moved here for life outside of work, and I vowed to never work for a publicly traded company again. I even quit my first position here on the spot because my immediate superiors' lack of respect for my personal time/safety. After only a month, I managed to land an even better position with a significant pay bump and profit sharing, and I was rather upfront with my experiences and expectations up to that point. Many of the fellow transplants I know have similar attitudes, as have most superiors and clients I've worked with.
Good Post, I think you nailed it.
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Old 01-27-2020, 02:46 PM
 
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I may get some hate for this, but here goes.

I've lived in some of the largest cities in the US, and I've worked in corporate environments in all of those locations. Since moving to Denver, I have found that, on the whole, there is a marked lack of professionalism and work ethic here. This isn't everyone of course, but it's significant enough that it's stood out to me.

People just don't seem to take work very seriously here. It's an attitude of laziness, a lack of urgency, and a lack of accountability. The corporate environments I've worked in here have had a sense of disorganization and disconnectedness that you just wouldn't find in larger cities. And, the unprofessional behavior that I've witnessed in the workplace here is insane, to the point where half of the things that people get away with would never, ever fly in larger cities, especially not on the east coast.

This has been my experience, and the experience of other transplants I've talked to about this. Again, it doesn't apply to everyone in Denver, but it's common enough to be notable. Has anyone else experienced this?
But does the company still make money?

Being uptight for the sake up being uptight is why i left the east coast.

Don't you dare try and make me wear a suit everyday!
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Old 01-27-2020, 04:25 PM
 
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I've lived in some of the largest cities in the US, and I've worked in corporate environments ... half of the things that people get away with would never, ever fly in larger cities, especially not on the east coast.
It's the unemployment rate. My spouse worked at a big corp here in Denver, and a new manager came in and laid down the law. He lost 1/3 of his staff in 6 months and was fired. The guy had no clue that he wouldn't be able to replace them.
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Old 01-28-2020, 08:16 AM
 
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It's the unemployment rate. My spouse worked at a big corp here in Denver, and a new manager came in and laid down the law. He lost 1/3 of his staff in 6 months and was fired. The guy had no clue that he wouldn't be able to replace them.
Shortage of workers seems to be prevalent. When people have other options, work-life balance is going to be a priority.
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Millennials are changing the culture of work. (And I say, good for them.) And yes, Denver's more mellow than the East -- though I wouldn't call it lack of professionalism or question the work ethic. I would characterize it as a desire to have a life outside of work. Which is a concept that's hard for some people in the East to understand. (OP, ever work in Europe? Boy would that open your eyes...)
That was said about us Boomers at one time, too. WE were the ones who valued a "work-life balance", etc, etc, etc. Then all of a sudden we were being accused of being workaholics while the Gen Xers wanted that. Then the Millennials. It's always the younger generation.
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Old 01-28-2020, 09:39 AM
 
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It's the unemployment rate. My spouse worked at a big corp here in Denver, and a new manager came in and laid down the law. He lost 1/3 of his staff in 6 months and was fired. The guy had no clue that he wouldn't be able to replace them.

Did he work for RTD? Is he the guy who lost all the drivers???


But I think they are close to a 100% attrition rate (93%) with most of their trainees so maybe not him.
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:07 PM
 
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That was said about us Boomers at one time, too. WE were the ones who valued a "work-life balance", etc, etc, etc. Then all of a sudden we were being accused of being workaholics while the Gen Xers wanted that. Then the Millennials. It's always the younger generation.
I disagree. Boomers were all about women going into the workplace and accumulating wealth.
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