Colorado (Denver) Drivers (Berthoud: luxury, safe, to move)

[Melanzana92]

Originally Posted by cowboyxjon

Actually, there are plenty of cars (non-SUVs) that drive poorly, too. Someone in a little car tailgated me today on Alameda all the way from Broadway until University, as if tailgating me was going to make the traffic in front of me go faster. The road was icy/slick and I feel that the speed of the traffic in front of me was appropriate.

I drive an SUV, too (Jeep Wrangler), but I get annoyed sometimes with all of the comments about how awful the SUV drivers are, because really, there are plenty of terrible "regular car" drivers, too. Especially when it snows. Not everyone in an SUV drives recklessly.

Exactly, I drive a Patriot and would never even think of going as fast as some of those little cars do... They're insane. The sad part is it could not even matter how careful WE are because eventually one of them will hit us.

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To continue with the snow topic, here we have the prime example why people should slow down, and yet they don't. Gosh, why are people so dumb? Slick roads, no seat belts contribute to deadly crashes along I-70 | 9news.com

That 17 year old was probably driving too fast anyway, but she does have a point about the people that were in front of her... If there's no need to hit the brake, then don't do so! Other people will hit their brakes harder than the first person and lose control.

[Prodigal Native]

Originally Posted by TonyVaz1009

That 17 year old was probably driving too fast anyway, but she does have a point about the people that were in front of her... If there's no need to hit the brake, then don't do so! Other people will hit their brakes harder than the first person and lose control.

I haven't watched the video (being at work and all), but that is one of my pet peaves - wet/slick roads or not.

People don't seem to understand that if you LOOK ahead and act preemptively you can let off the gas and gradually slow down without hitting your brakes. If you do that and the people behind you do that (etc, etc...) traffic will flow smoothly, but all it takes is one person to slam on their brakes and then the domino affect kicks in and you get a traffic wave (at best) or an out of control car.

[SaxnFlutman]

Originally Posted by ucbedge

Drive the 405 in LA between the 105 and the 10 during rush hour. Heck not even rush hour - try 1PM. Then come back and say that Denver is even remotely in the same league.

Coming from LA, I find Denver "traffic" positively pleasant.

I can understand that, having also lived there! I think one of the major contributors to lousy driving experiences here is the hodge-podge effect. I have been here a year, and while I have driven in many other cities across America, it seems like there was never any urban planning at work here. It is quite confusing figuring out how to get from point A to point B, or even from a close-in suburb to downtown. Every road twists & turns, so N,S,E, & W become fairly irrelevant, especially when major streets are E or W of I-25 at one point, the opposite, further up or down the highway, etc. That, combined with tiny, unlit street signs, turn-only lanes that suddenly pop-up at the last minute, & near-invisible lane markings, make driving here quite stressful & frustrating.

At least in LA you know where you're going, it just might take hours to get there!

[zenkonami]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Native

I haven't watched the video (being at work and all), but that is one of my pet peaves - wet/slick roads or not.

People don't seem to understand that if you LOOK ahead and act preemptively you can let off the gas and gradually slow down without hitting your brakes. If you do that and the people behind you do that (etc, etc...) traffic will flow smoothly, but all it takes is one person to slam on their brakes and then the domino affect kicks in and you get a traffic wave (at best) or an out of control car.

That and LEAVE SOME SPACE. It's okay to leave a reasonable number of car lengths in front of you...in fact, in heavy traffic it may result in everyone going more slowly, but at least you KEEP MOVING instead of stop & go.

[Timmyy]

Originally Posted by cowboyxjon

Actually, there are plenty of cars (non-SUVs) that drive poorly, too. Someone in a little car tailgated me today on Alameda all the way from Broadway until University, as if tailgating me was going to make the traffic in front of me go faster. The road was icy/slick and I feel that the speed of the traffic in front of me was appropriate.

I drive an SUV, too (Jeep Wrangler), but I get annoyed sometimes with all of the comments about how awful the SUV drivers are, because really, there are plenty of terrible "regular car" drivers, too. Especially when it snows. Not everyone in an SUV drives recklessly.

Audi drivers.

[Timmyy]

Originally Posted by ucbedge

Drive the 405 in LA between the 105 and the 10 during rush hour. Heck not even rush hour - try 1PM. Then come back and say that Denver is even remotely in the same league.

Coming from LA, I find Denver "traffic" positively pleasant.

It is not the traffic itself, it is the drivers. I have driven the 405 and experienced it. Yes it does suck but I believe the drivers are better and more courteous than they are out here. Just my humble opinion.

[Timmyy]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Native

I haven't watched the video (being at work and all), but that is one of my pet peaves - wet/slick roads or not.

People don't seem to understand that if you LOOK ahead and act preemptively you can let off the gas and gradually slow down without hitting your brakes. If you do that and the people behind you do that (etc, etc...) traffic will flow smoothly, but all it takes is one person to slam on their brakes and then the domino affect kicks in and you get a traffic wave (at best) or an out of control car.

Plus it will save your brakes. My wife was a brake hound. I taught her to stay well back from the car in front of her and let go of the gas until it is absolutely necessary to apply the brakes. Her brake problems are no longer.

[Melanzana92]

Originally Posted by Timmyy

Audi drivers.

Exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned small cars. When I'm on I-70 to go skiing and it's snowing, and a car flies past me doing some ridiculously fast speed on the ice, it's ALWAYS an Audi.

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by Timmyy

My wife... I taught her to ...

You taught your wife something? Wow. You are my new idol. When I try to teach my wife something... especially with regards to driving... is where the argument begins.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by McGowdog

You taught your wife something? Wow. You are my new idol. When I try to teach my wife something... especially with regards to driving... is where the argument begins.

This sounds familiar.