Is Denver a Clean City? or is it Dirty? (Colorado Springs: parks, town)

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by N610DL

No question - My question is more around the lines of how bad Denver gets for a mid-size city?

Most Polluted Cities | American Lung Association

[ABQConvict]

Originally Posted by Phil P

They'res whole communities / tent cities like this in the Springs,

Whom'st've thought such conditions would exist in Colorado Springs?

[N610DL]

Originally Posted by SkyDog77

Most Polluted Cities | American Lung Association

#11 - Surprised it's topped over Houston and Dallas.

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by N610DL

#11 - Surprised it's topped over Houston and Dallas.

On ozone pollution. Not on short or long term particle pollution. You need to look at the whole picture.

Short term particle pollution was the question you were asking about.

[N610DL]

Originally Posted by SkyDog77

On ozone pollution. Not on short or long term particle pollution. You need to look at the whole picture.

Short term particle pollution was the question you were asking about.

Pretty surprising numbers. I'm surprised The Bay Area was ahead of L.A. in terms of year round particle pollution

[Phil P]

Originally Posted by SkyDog77

I’ve seen some nasty haze in Colorado Springs. During inversions it get gross there.

That's clouds or fire smoke or dust though. It's not a pollution brown haze, which Denver has about 40% of the time.

Originally Posted by Mezter

I feel like Denver residence like to exaggerate and make things worst than they actually are. Denver is a fairly clean for a city of it's size.

No it's not. It's not that big of a city with 2.8 million people. Air pollution aside, the fact that we have the most polluted zip code in the nation right next to downtown with people living all over it is a big issue.

And regarding upkeep and general maintenance, dog crap, and litter, I wouldn't consider us above average. What we don't have though is urban decay.

It's not filthy and you can avoid the worse parts, but it'd false labeling to call it a "clean city".

Originally Posted by ABQConvict

Whom'st've thought such conditions would exist in Colorado Springs?

There's a lot of them down there. I think a fair amount have moved down there from Denver or in from out of state for the pot. The reason I say that is because most all of them smoke it (when they are away from their streetcorner). And the Springs has a huge charity deal with the church presence, so I think that feeds it some. The thing is there, they aren't as concentrated where the tourists would go.

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by Phil P

That's clouds or fire smoke or dust though. It's not a pollution brown haze, which Denver has about 40% of the time.

No. I’m talking winter weather inversions that hold pollution in the basin.

[Mezter]

Originally Posted by Phil P

No it's not. It's not that big of a city with 2.8 million people. Air pollution aside, the fact that we have the most polluted zip code in the nation right next to downtown with people living all over it is a big issue.

And regarding upkeep and general maintenance, dog crap, and litter, I wouldn't consider us above average. What we don't have though is urban decay.

It's not filthy and you can avoid the worse parts, but it'd false labeling to call it a "clean city".

I've seen many smaller cities first hand that come off as less cleanly. No one's saying it's the cleanest, but you're definitely exaggerating imo.

[Phil P]

Originally Posted by SkyDog77

No. I’m talking winter weather inversions that hold pollution in the basin.

Show me a picture. I don't remember seeing that growing up there.

Originally Posted by Mezter

I've seen many smaller cities first hand that come off as less cleanly. No one's saying it's the cleanest, but you're definitely exaggerating imo.

Do we have to do this again?
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/1...uted-zip-code/
I'm not exaggerating anything.

I'm sure there are less maintained cities, especially in poor parts of the nation. That doesn't correlate to polluted though. I'm sure there are old manufacturing cities that are dirty. Denver had mining and that's pretty dirty. All I'm saying is Denver is not in the top 3rd of clean metros of the US.

[SkyDog77]

Originally Posted by Phil P

Show me a picture. I don't remember seeing that growing up there.

I didn’t take pictures but definitely remember seeing that pollution haze over the city, especially by the power plant. I’m not trying to say it is comparable to Denver’s haze.