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Old 09-29-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Southwest Suburbs
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ACS 2009 estimates

Detroit
pop. 910,848

Black alone- 75.7%(689,965)
White alone- 13.3%(120,891)
Hispanics- 7.4%(67,361)
Asian- 1.7%(15,184)
Native American- 0.2%(1,831)
Mixed- 1.5%(13,548)

The new estimates illustrates there has been some changes compare to 2000


Detroit in 2000
pop. 951,270

Black- 775,772(81.6%)
White alone- 99,921(10.5%)Hispanic- 47,167(5.0%)
Asian- 9,268(1.0%)
NA- 3,140(0.3%)
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Old 09-30-2010, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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White people wouldn't move away from blacks that moved in as neighbors if the mainstream black culture wasn't so...destructive. Loud parties, yelling in groups, higher propensity for crime, etc. Bring on the excuses that not all blacks are like that, well duh. Not every pitbull bites people but the percentage is a LOT higher than any other breed. Same rule applies.
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Old 09-30-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Maybe you would, but most whites would have the real estate signs out if their neighborhood became 50% to 80% black.
If they are moving solely due to the change of skin color of their neighborhoods, then good, I'm glad to see them go.

...and I would love to see their reaction when they discover that there are black people in their new neighborhood as well.
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Old 09-30-2010, 09:37 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Me in green.

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Retroit, your history and perspectives on this topic are totally wrong; they fall flat on their face.

1. Suburban flight happened before whatever societal breakdown you are talking about. People began leaving Detroit in the 1950s once the federal government subsidized the construction of expressways, and to this day, they just keep going.

That is true. Suburbanization would have happened even if we were all of one race. But many whites are accused of moving because they were racist, when in fact the reason they moved when blacks started moving in was because they saw how blacks lived in Black Bottom and didn't want to live in a neighborhood that looked like that.

2. It is not feasible to maintain 100% of any city with 50% of the resources. The reason several areas of the city look like urban praries has nothing to do with Detroiters neglecting these areas, it is because the people to whom this property once belonged left it behind when they moved out of town. If your neighbors on both sides moved out tomorrow to live in Brighton, are you going make sure everyday for the next 50 years that their property doesn't fall into disrepair? I think that would impose an absurd obligation.

That is a good point, but it neglects the fact that the reason the 50% left is because the 50% that remained were, in part, responsible for the other 50% leaving. Once a property is vacant, it is the responsibility of the city government to hold the owners responsible. If the property is abandoned and falls into the hands of the city, it is the city's responsibility to take care of it. And if the city is negligent, it is the responsibility of the residents to hold the city accountable. And, yes, I would do whatever I could to help maintain vacant properties if those responsible were negligent.

3. Yes, "blockbusting" was a financial tool used to decimate property values so slumlords could make massive land grabs, but they played on the racist fears of white residents. It was racism pure and simple. Nobody stood up to what was happening and said "Hey, maybe this Dr. Ossian Sweet isn't so bad; we don't have to leave."

That is true. But what was the reason that whites feared blacks moving in? Was it really because whites thought that blacks were biologically inferior and incapable of living civilized lives (a racist belief), or was it because the only black neighborhoods they were familiar with were crime-ridden and run down (a logical conclusion)?
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Old 09-30-2010, 04:48 PM
 
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Lemme know when some white folks move to Detroit to raise their kids.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Detroit's Marina District
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Lemme know when some white folks move to Detroit to raise their kids.
I don't think that's gonna happen until the public schools clean up their act.
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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I don't think that's gonna happen until the public schools clean up their act.
Won't happen until the entire DPS system is completely taken over by the private sector. And we know how Detroiters feel about giving up control of their "gems". This is the same city that turned down $200 Million from Bob Thompson a few years ago because they didn't want a white guy from the suburbs to have any say in building 15 new state of the art high schools in the city. The city was afraid of losing whatever passes for "control", the union was afraid of losing teaching jobs, the governor was afraid of losing the ensorsement of the MEA, and the residents who elected the hip hop mayor twice were happy with the status quo.

So some young single white people are moving into the city. Big deal. Single people and even empty nesters and childless couples do not make a "community". Families do. Maybe they can make a sitcom about a group of young, single white people and their urban pioneering adventure. Sort of like an updated version of "How The West Was Won" or maybe "Bonanza".
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Huntington Woods, MI
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So how many inner cities have white families moving into them and sending their kids to inner city public schools? Why do people act like the phenomina is only in Detroit? Go to Chicago and see how many white families are falling over themselves trying to move into the city and send their kids to Chicago public schools.
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Old 10-01-2010, 07:14 PM
 
Location: north of Windsor, ON
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I heard somewhere that white flight begins at about 11% black population. Thing is, nowadays, the whites can't run away so easily, since their homes in places like Eastpointe and Harper Woods sell for pocket change and the further out suburbs are far more integrated than they used to be. When I hear of whites fleeing because of blacks moving in, I just laugh, because there isn't much point of it anymore.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Downtown Detroit
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I heard somewhere that white flight begins at about 11% black population. Thing is, nowadays, the whites can't run away so easily, since their homes in places like Eastpointe and Harper Woods sell for pocket change and the further out suburbs are far more integrated than they used to be. When I hear of whites fleeing because of blacks moving in, I just laugh, because there isn't much point of it anymore.
It's forcing people to interact and confront their problems for the first time in centuries. Paranoia strikes deep; into your life it will creep. It starts when your always afraid. Young people speaking their minds, their getting so much resistance, it happens all the time. Times are changing my friends...
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