Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan > Detroit
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-02-2010, 02:41 PM
 
Location: west mich
5,739 posts, read 6,934,715 times
Reputation: 2130

Advertisements

Hastings Street was a vibrant entertainment/residential district near downtown - bulldozed in the '50s for the fwy. Had it been preserved it may have become a historical drawing card for the city.
I had an idea to bring it back - Hastings Street reborn! What would it take - refurbish some buildings, get entrepreneurs involved. How about in or near Corktown? Recreate its atmosphere - not overly gentrified.
It would draw tourists, conventioners, locals. This area has musical talent all over the place, the musical scene is fragmented. This would centralize it, it would be a "district" like the others. National acts do play in smaller venues because of love for their art. It would give visitors more options, not to mention better PR for the city. Traveling acts would love to play Hastings Street in Detroit!
Are there people of vision & energy who think this is a good idea for Corktown? Do you have any old historic buildings which could be saved? Am I nuts?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-02-2010, 03:56 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
21,135 posts, read 19,714,475 times
Reputation: 25659
Well, of course you're nuts, but what does that prove other than you are fully qualified to make major development decisions in Detroit.

Can it be replicated? I suppose, but I think you'll have difficulty finding a street with a continuous line of usable (key word) buildings to replicate the feel, like you can find in Greektown or Beale Street in Memphis. And in this economy, building from scratch would be unlikely. How about a modern version? What about the buildings that were going to be "The Asian Village" (or whatever the name was), near the RenCen? You'd have the additional draw from the Riverwalk.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-02-2010, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Downtown Detroit
1,497 posts, read 3,490,917 times
Reputation: 930
Quote:
Originally Posted by detwahDJ View Post
Hastings Street was a vibrant entertainment/residential district near downtown - bulldozed in the '50s for the fwy. Had it been preserved it may have become a historical drawing card for the city.
I had an idea to bring it back - Hastings Street reborn! What would it take - refurbish some buildings, get entrepreneurs involved. How about in or near Corktown? Recreate its atmosphere - not overly gentrified.
It would draw tourists, conventioners, locals. This area has musical talent all over the place, the musical scene is fragmented. This would centralize it, it would be a "district" like the others. National acts do play in smaller venues because of love for their art. It would give visitors more options, not to mention better PR for the city. Traveling acts would love to play Hastings Street in Detroit!
Are there people of vision & energy who think this is a good idea for Corktown? Do you have any old historic buildings which could be saved? Am I nuts?
I definitely don't think you're nuts. People are already doing similar things in Corktown and having pretty good success. I don't remember Hastings Street or know much about it, but a similar area that saw the same fate for very little reason was Rivertown on E. Jefferson, which was completely disassembled and demolished during the Archer administration for new condo developments, which never panned out. My dad used to hang out in Rivertown years agoa at some of the famous blues bars there. If you drive through there now, it is really depressing and just looks abandoned even though it so close to the RenCen. Archer seized all of the property through eminent domain, but I don't know who owns it today. If you wanted to revive a part of the city and attract musical talent, I couldn't think of a better location. I'm not sure on the condition of buildings- it probably varies.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-02-2010, 06:21 PM
 
Location: west mich
5,739 posts, read 6,934,715 times
Reputation: 2130
Rivertown blues club? This was also known as the "warehouse district"?
The blues club was the Soup Kitchen - I went there many times. They had a jam session at one point and I knew many blues musicians. A restaurant was the Woodbridge Tavern - a former speakeasy in the '30s(?). A movie was shot there "The Rosary Murders" with Donald Sutherland. There was a popular disco-type club later on which I know little about. I supposed it changed somewhat by now?
I'm somewhat familiar with corktown but I didn't know it extended to the MC Depot. I once checked out an apt above some business there but I don't remember the street - it was just off Michigan down from the stadium as I recall.
Does any of this ring a bell with you?

Last edited by detwahDJ; 12-02-2010 at 06:42 PM.. Reason: changed a name
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-02-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Downtown Detroit
1,497 posts, read 3,490,917 times
Reputation: 930
Quote:
Originally Posted by detwahDJ View Post
Rivertown blues club? This was also known as the "warehouse district"?
The blues club was the Soup Kitchen - I went there many times. They had a jam session at one point and I knew many blues musicians. A restaurant was the Woodbridge Tavern - a former speakeasy in the '30s(?). A movie was shot there "The Rosary Murders" with David Sutherland. There was a popular disco-type club later on which I know little about. I supposed it changed somewhat by now?
I'm somewhat familiar with corktown but I didn't know it extended to the MC Depot. I once checked out an apt above some business there but I don't remember the street - it was just off Michigan down from the stadium as I recall.
Does any of this ring a bell with you?
Yeah, the blues club was called the Soup Kitchen, but "changed" isn't really the right choice of words to describe what happened to Rivertown- the whole area where all those bars once were no longer exists. There's nothing there anymore except decaying structures. The only improvement the city made was knocking down those giant silos that were a heinous aberration on the Detroit skyline.

I'm not able to pinpoint the place in Corktown you speak of, but there are plenty of lofts there now. MCS has basically become the centerpiece of Corktown at the top of Roosevelt Park. If you keep going west down Balgey, you get into an area a lot of people refer to as Mexican Village (not to be confused w/ Mexicantown), but only because of the restuarant that's there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-03-2010, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Detroit
14 posts, read 88,435 times
Reputation: 17
[quote=ForStarters;16557303]There's enough positive news coming out of Corktown these days to justify a thread dedicated to discussing new developments. I don't live in Corktown, so my hope is that people who do will update us as time goes on with all of the little things that make the neighborhood so great!

There are also a few new restaurants opening in Corktown. The Mercury Burger Bar is opening in the spring, across the street from Slows. Otto Via, an upscale Italian restaurant and pizzeria, is set to open shortly after at Michigan and Eighth.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-04-2010, 11:24 AM
 
Location: west mich
5,739 posts, read 6,934,715 times
Reputation: 2130
So Slow's is in Corktown? The Detroit-187 actors are talking about it - as well as Lou's Deli and a place caller Miller's. Are these in the area also?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-04-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Downtown Detroit
1,497 posts, read 3,490,917 times
Reputation: 930
Quote:
Originally Posted by detwahDJ View Post
So Slow's is in Corktown? The Detroit-187 actors are talking about it - as well as Lou's Deli and a place caller Miller's. Are these in the area also?
Slow's is in Corktown off Michigan Ave. Lou's is far from Corktown, on McNichols by University of Detroit Mercy. Miller's Bar is a famous burger joint in Dearborn, also on Michigan Ave, but nowheres near Corktown.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-09-2010, 09:05 AM
 
Location: west mich
5,739 posts, read 6,934,715 times
Reputation: 2130
Folks, please don't let this thread die! I'm interested in Corktown. Maybe post some pix. Things pretty slow in the wintertime?
If you don't blink you can see the Mercury bar in the latest ep of Detroit 187 with Della Reese.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-16-2010, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Downtown Detroit
1,497 posts, read 3,490,917 times
Reputation: 930
Default This really sums up what's happening in Corktown

Restaurateurs see growing Corktown population as solid base for business - Crain's Detroit Business - Detroit News and Information

The only way to describe Corktown's continued progress is..... Wow .

Not only is demand for housing outstripping available supply, but the wave of new businesses opening is astonishing. It's like a shining beacon of success in our region. That neighborhood is only going to continue to improve and prosper. The people at the helm are ambitious, creative, entrepreneurial, and determined. I don't even know how many different kinds of savvy those Corktowners must be, but whatever it is, they are going to reap the reward of all that effort as their businesses rise in profit and their homes continue to climb in value. They are making something out of nothing. It's the Spirit of Detroit.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Michigan > Detroit

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:46 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top