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Old 12-08-2017, 10:46 PM
 
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Brewery planned for historic Packard Plant site in Detroit | MLive.com
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Old 12-09-2017, 01:09 PM
 
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I have my doubts that this building is structurally sound. Portions have already colllapsed. It’s been open to the elements for many years now, not to mmention vandals. I think there was also a fire a few years back. Certainly for sanitary reasons, I would think a new facility would be more economical than trying to bring this building up to code.

...but I could be wrong.
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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I have my doubts that this building is structurally sound. Portions have already colllapsed. It’s been open to the elements for many years now, not to mmention vandals. I think there was also a fire a few years back. Certainly for sanitary reasons, I would think a new facility would be more economical than trying to bring this building up to code.

...but I could be wrong.
Quite an understatement. The Packard Plant was set on fire day after day after day after day after day.

Fire At Packard Plant … ‘Burns All The Time’

Here we go again: Detroit's Packard Plant on fire


It might be more economical to build a new facility, but what is the draw for a new facility in that area of Detroit? The draw of the Packard Plant is the nostalga of the luxury Packard car brand, and the size, grandeur and history of that enormous collection of industrial buildings.
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Old 12-10-2017, 05:26 AM
 
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Quite an understatement. The Packard Plant was set on fire day after day after day after day after day.

Fire At Packard Plant … ‘Burns All The Time’

Here we go again: Detroit's Packard Plant on fire


It might be more economical to build a new facility, but what is the draw for a new facility in that area of Detroit? The draw of the Packard Plant is the nostalga of the luxury Packard car brand, and the size, grandeur and history of that enormous collection of industrial buildings.
Most European restorations of old historic buildings start from the inside out. They maintain the exterior while building new on the inside to support the old structure.

This has been use in America with great success..


What Los Angeles Taught Me about Building Reuse From the Inside Out
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Old 12-10-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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As I've posted on another forum, this is my favorite video of the Packard plant:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxy713YsYE

Should be noted that Lindsay often performs in breweries. She was just a little ahead of the game here.

My personal connection to the Packard plant was that a hundred or so years ago when it was new my grandfather was an executive trainee there for Packard. Later on he owned a couple of Packard dealerships. He went bankrupt during the depression.
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Old 12-14-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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As I've posted on another forum, this is my favorite video of the Packard plant:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxy713YsYE

Should be noted that Lindsay often performs in breweries. She was just a little ahead of the game here.

My personal connection to the Packard plant was that a hundred or so years ago when it was new my grandfather was an executive trainee there for Packard. Later on he owned a couple of Packard dealerships. He went bankrupt during the depression.
Thanks for sharing that video, it reminds me of Sam Roberts "Detroit '67".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgNenEe0VcE
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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It's really great that old buildings are being revived rather than demolished. But rather than just turning the Packard Plant into a brewery, being such a landmark of deindustrialization, I would like to see at least a part of it being turned into a museum about industrialization and deindustrialization, and another part of it kept in its present condition and made safe to be opened up for the public to visit.
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Old 12-19-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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The Packard plant is a huge building of over 3 million s.f. plus multiple outbuildings. Parts of it are distressed, parts are in decent shape. Overall it is sound. the main issue has been who has the money to rehab 3 million square feet?

Obviously they are not going to allow a brewpub in the building if it is unsafe. The brewpub will use what? Maybe 10,000 s.f., if that much. I am not a math wizard in my head, but I think that is less than one third of 1% of the building.
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Old 12-21-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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If our local brewery down here (although in a very different setting) is any indication, 10k s.f. is just about right.

Almost anywhere else that entire facility would have been demolished by now but maybe it can be repurposed...
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Old 12-22-2017, 10:52 AM
 
Location: New Mexico via Ohio via Indiana
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As I've posted on another forum, this is my favorite video of the Packard plant:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxy713YsYE

Should be noted that Lindsay often performs in breweries. She was just a little ahead of the game here.

My personal connection to the Packard plant was that a hundred or so years ago when it was new my grandfather was an executive trainee there for Packard. Later on he owned a couple of Packard dealerships. He went bankrupt during the depression.
Right at the end of the video, the strings were stolen from the upright bass and stripped for copper.
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