Detroit Among World's Most Underrated Cities (Lansing, Ann Arbor: loft, how much, transfer)

[detwahDJ]

BTW the Lions will surprise this year!!

[Bydand]

Originally Posted by detwahDJ

BTW the Lions will surprise this year!!

You mean they might win a few .

That being tossed out there, I was surprised by their playing at the end of last season really. They showed a VAST improvement (as if they could have gotten worse ) over prior years and even the start of the season.

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by Remisc

But, you never hear about any of this in the media. Which is why Detroit can easily be called 'underrated'.

This was my point.

[Jwo85]

Originally Posted by AlohaHuey

The casinos have dropped off...that's really not much of an improvement, either.

Sports stadiums are nice for the owners.

Once again...where is the economic opportunity to drive sustained growth to the redeveloped parts of the city? Unless and until that is in place, the rest is just chump change. Unless and until that is in place, how can Detroit be considered "underrated"?

Negative people who put down Detroit like yourself is what makes Detroit underrated big time!

[Remisc]

Originally Posted by Jwo85

Negative people who put down Detroit like yourself is what makes Detroit underrated big time!

[danielj72]

Originally Posted by detwahDJ

BTW the Lions will surprise this year!!

The Tigers may do good, the Redwings but come on the Lions???? The Lions have stunk for decades. You have to own a walker and have grey hair to be old enough to remember the days when the Lions were good. The Lions being an embarassment is a Michigan tradition, I dont know what we'd do if they ever started winning. Nine million people would have to be treated for shock. lol

[AlohaHuey]

Originally Posted by Jwo85

Negative people who put down Detroit like yourself is what makes Detroit underrated big time!

I'm not putting down Detroit. I am saying, for the third time, the ARTICLE cited by the OP touts a few museums, some lofts and a few restaurants as proof Detroit is "underrated"...and I also said, for the third time, that until the economic engine of Detroit is restarted, there won't be the sustained economic activity to grow anything more than these few examples, which, to me, don't constitute much of a comeback.

I ALSO said, for the THIRD time, that if the economic engine is restarted, there is great potential for growth in Detroit. But a couple of new restaurants and lofts isn't much. It's a start. But you need jobs to attract and retain people to fuel the growth.

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by AlohaHuey

I'm not putting down Detroit. I am saying, for the third time, the ARTICLE cited by the OP touts a few museums, some lofts and a few restaurants as proof Detroit is "underrated"...and I also said, for the third time, that until the economic engine of Detroit is restarted, there won't be the sustained economic activity to grow anything more than these few examples, which, to me, don't constitute much of a comeback.
I ALSO said, for the THIRD time, that if the economic engine is restarted, there is great potential for growth in Detroit.

If the article itself is the basis for your opinion, we know it is neither gospel nor complete. It is extremely short in fact.

Originally Posted by danielj72

The Tigers may do good, the Redwings but come on the Lions???? The Lions have stunk for decades. You have to own a walker and have grey hair to be old enough to remember the days when the Lions were good. The Lions being an embarassment is a Michigan tradition, I dont know what we'd do if they ever started winning. Nine million people would have to be treated for shock. lol

My walker is getting new wheels so I can roll into the playoffs.
Your figure is wrong: 8,999,999 will be shocked (not me).

Originally Posted by Bydand

You mean they might win a few .
That being tossed out there, I was surprised by their playing at the end of last season really. They showed a VAST improvement (as if they could have gotten worse ) over prior years and even the start of the season.

What they did was with backups. They need their starters healthy and a couple holes filled.

[Tex?Il?]

Originally Posted by AlohaHuey

I'm not putting down Detroit. I am saying, for the third time, the ARTICLE cited by the OP touts a few museums, some lofts and a few restaurants as proof Detroit is "underrated"...and I also said, for the third time, that until the economic engine of Detroit is restarted, there won't be the sustained economic activity to grow anything more than these few examples, which, to me, don't constitute much of a comeback.

I ALSO said, for the THIRD time, that if the economic engine is restarted, there is great potential for growth in Detroit. But a couple of new restaurants and lofts isn't much. It's a start. But you need jobs to attract and retain people to fuel the growth.

Other posters already pointed out the major corporate relocations that have happened over the past few years. (Quicken Loans, Compuware), have you been following business news, like the comeback of Ford, and to a lesser extent GM, and possibly even Chrysler. Yes they are downsized. But the fact is, ALL the worlds major automakers have some presence in Oakland County with highly skilled, highyl educated engineers, designers, testing (crash tests, etc.) that are all here. There is a huge educated workforce here. Auto industry is boom and bust as well as anything and everything conncted. The companies made some bad decisions, but they are making a comeback. Even if we become more energy efficient, cars are not going away. Germans walk and take public transit more, same with Japanese, but they still have cars and car companies.

We're not all going to live like Manhattanites in the near future. Light rails and subways are going to be a complementary or supplementary to driving. Even in Chicago, if you have to transfer between EL and bus, or from El to El line, its usually quicker to drive.

And you need to read the post my Magellan in your thread on economic diversification. SE Michigan is actually "sort of" more diversified than people give it credit for. There are high tech companies, accounting firms, law offices, advertising agencies. Thing is however, is that their largest clients often are the automakers, so when they take a hit, everyone else outside the industry is affected.

Plus Ann Arbors presence means a fairly high amount of medical tech, etc.

Like others have told you, not everyone in SE Michigan is a UAW person with no college education. That image simply overwhelms the image of the region.

The fact is, is that even it at its best Detroit, SE Michigan is going to be somewhat boom and bust, and employment is going to be somewhat decentralized. Is it really that bad that Birmingham and Royal Oak are more of the walkable urban-like hangouts for young professionals? They are along Woodward the same corridor that passes through downtown and midtown.

[Jwo85]

Originally Posted by AlohaHuey

I'm not putting down Detroit. I am saying, for the third time, the ARTICLE cited by the OP touts a few museums, some lofts and a few restaurants as proof Detroit is "underrated"...and I also said, for the third time, that until the economic engine of Detroit is restarted, there won't be the sustained economic activity to grow anything more than these few examples, which, to me, don't constitute much of a comeback.

I ALSO said, for the THIRD time, that if the economic engine is restarted, there is great potential for growth in Detroit. But a couple of new restaurants and lofts isn't much. It's a start. But you need jobs to attract and retain people to fuel the growth.

The main topic about the article the op posted is about traveling and site seeing, not the local economy though.

First sentence of the article

Welcome to the urban underdogs—cities that aren't on the radar for most travelers