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Old 04-14-2011, 08:03 PM
 
Location: The Lakes
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SOMETHING, SOMETHING, SOMETHING, DETROIT - Lazy Journalists Love Pictures of Abandoned Stuff - Vice Magazine

For my friends in Detroit. I miss the place. Life has brought me all over from Michigan and the next stop is Minneapolis... Eyeing becoming a career student at UMich though

Hope you guys are doing well!
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Here.
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To the rest of the world, Detroit is a strange place. The fact that there is still life in the city and that there are signs of rebirth does not detract from the fact that you can see things here that don't exist anywhere else.

So I guess I disagree with the author. Let people come and experience an unusual city...and let them come in droves.

I chuckled at the reference to East Detroit.
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Old 04-14-2011, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Downtown Detroit
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Well, the article makes some good points, but it is somewhat ironic in that they are capitalizing on the same national (international?) obsession with Detroit as the "ruin pornographers." In any event, I'm getting close to not caring anymore about what people think of Detroit or what lazy journalists choose to publish...

I'm having the time of my life in Detroit! I really think that I've caught this city in a sweet spot. I live in a nice apartment with a stunning view and awesome amenities all for WAAAY cheaper than any other place. I've been riding my bike in the evenings down the Riverwalk, which is a seemingly never-ending, totally pristine parkland with gorgeous views. Today I sat on a dock next to lighthouse with the skyline in the background and fed the seagulls while watching freighters go by. There's something to do every night of the week. Whether it's listening to some new bands in Midtown, walking over to a Tigers' game to see a few innings for $5, riding my bike up to the art institute, stopping up at one of a hundred awesome bars, chatting aimlessly with new people moving into the city, and on, and on, and on... This city has its problems, no doubt, but if you find the right neighborhood, it is ****ing awesome right now. There's so much stuff going on, people out and about, an infinite number of things to get involved in. There are sooo many community groups doing fun and inspiring things, lots of young and unconventional entrepreneurs. I have friends who are starting interesting new businesses- It's like the remaking of America. The best part of this city is that people are not pretentious; occasionally we're self-loathing, but never uppity or form-fitting. There's no snobbishness or commercialism culture. There are no Real Housewives and there is no Rodeo Drive. Franchises are all but non-existent. Most businesses, from grocers to coffee shops to restaurants to hardware stores to my girlfriend's yoga lessons are independently owned and operated by locals. Detroit's just real.

Why no reporter looks at this city from that perspective is beyond me. Maybe they don't spend enough time here to figure Detroit out. Perhaps they are so brainwashed by the usual mundane predictability of American life that they look at Detroit like a deadbeat black sheep. What they fail to realize is that what they attribute to being total failure, is a completely refreshing rebirth occurring right in front of their face and camera lens.

I dig shopping at unique places where I feel comfortable talking with the owner about how to improve her business. Or, when the owner of a deli asks ME, what I'd like them to carry- It's not like another stifling ****ing trip to MEGASTORE where I buy what they put out and they track my purchasing habits through some supercomputer. The store tracks my purchasing habits when I tell the owner which brands are good eats and which ones suck. It's nice when I can walk into a bar and know everyone in the room and they carry a special label of brew because that's what I like to drink. Maybe the barkeep even pours me a few extra rounds on the house because they value my business. When's the last time that happened at TGI Fridays?

Detroit is the best kept secret that everyone knows about.
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Well, the article makes some good points, but it is somewhat ironic in that they are capitalizing on the same national (international?) obsession with Detroit as the "ruin pornographers." In any event, I'm getting close to not caring anymore about what people think of Detroit or what lazy journalists choose to publish...

I'm having the time of my life in Detroit! I really think that I've caught this city in a sweet spot. I live in a nice apartment with a stunning view and awesome amenities all for WAAAY cheaper than any other place. I've been riding my bike in the evenings down the Riverwalk, which is a seemingly never-ending, totally pristine parkland with gorgeous views. Today I sat on a dock next to lighthouse with the skyline in the background and fed the seagulls while watching freighters go by. There's something to do every night of the week. Whether it's listening to some new bands in Midtown, walking over to a Tigers' game to see a few innings for $5, riding my bike up to the art institute, stopping up at one of a hundred awesome bars, chatting aimlessly with new people moving into the city, and on, and on, and on... This city has its problems, no doubt, but if you find the right neighborhood, it is ****ing awesome right now. There's so much stuff going on, people out and about, an infinite number of things to get involved in. There are sooo many community groups doing fun and inspiring things, lots of young and unconventional entrepreneurs. I have friends who are starting interesting new businesses- It's like the remaking of America. The best part of this city is that people are not pretentious; occasionally we're self-loathing, but never uppity or form-fitting. There's no snobbishness or commercialism culture. There are no Real Housewives and there is no Rodeo Drive. Franchises are all but non-existent. Most businesses, from grocers to coffee shops to restaurants to hardware stores to my girlfriend's yoga lessons are independently owned and operated by locals. Detroit's just real.

Why no reporter looks at this city from that perspective is beyond me. Maybe they don't spend enough time here to figure Detroit out. Perhaps they are so brainwashed by the usual mundane predictability of American life that they look at Detroit like a deadbeat black sheep. What they fail to realize is that what they attribute to being total failure, is a completely refreshing rebirth occurring right in front of their face and camera lens.

I dig shopping at unique places where I feel comfortable talking with the owner about how to improve her business. Or, when the owner of a deli asks ME, what I'd like them to carry- It's not like another stifling ****ing trip to MEGASTORE where I buy what they put out and they track my purchasing habits through some supercomputer. The store tracks my purchasing habits when I tell the owner which brands are good eats and which ones suck. It's nice when I can walk into a bar and know everyone in the room and they carry a special label of brew because that's what I like to drink. Maybe the barkeep even pours me a few extra rounds on the house because they value my business. When's the last time that happened at TGI Fridays?

Detroit is the best kept secret that everyone knows about.

Cut and paste this and send it to a newspaper, better yet, send it to Time magazine.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Here.
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Why no reporter looks at this city from that perspective is beyond me.
Because much of the city doesn't fit your description of it. While it may be true that downtown, midtown, and the Riverwalk are fun places, what about the other 137 sq. mi.? So, I agree that if a journalist is writing an article about the area you live in and frequent, they should have good things to say about it. But could the same be said of other areas in the city?

I frequently drive through the city (not just the expressway, but secondary and side streets), and I would say that most of the city is in bad to horribly bad shape. When I go downtown and walk around, I realize that the conditions there are better than elsewhere. Now, I suppose if I spent all my time down there, I would feel the way you do: that downtown is the city or is representative of the whole city. But I know better from experience.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Downtown Detroit
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Because much of the city doesn't fit your description of it. While it may be true that downtown, midtown, and the Riverwalk are fun places, what about the other 137 sq. mi.? So, I agree that if a journalist is writing an article about the area you live in and frequent, they should have good things to say about it. But could the same be said of other areas in the city?

I frequently drive through the city (not just the expressway, but secondary and side streets), and I would say that most of the city is in bad to horribly bad shape. When I go downtown and walk around, I realize that the conditions there are better than elsewhere. Now, I suppose if I spent all my time down there, I would feel the way you do: that downtown is the city or is representative of the whole city. But I know better from experience.
Totally. The city is a hodgepodge of neighborhoods, some are nice and affluent, some are solidly middle class, some are dilapidated, dangerous, and slum-like, and some have become completely barren urban prairies. Detroit's a huge place, but most of the things that are great about it can be taken advantage of by everyone who lives here. You can live on a nice street in East English Village and use the Riverwalk, or take the Mack bus downtown to a Tigers game. You can spend the day at the DIA or marvel at the paintings on the ceiling of the library, you can even spend an evening feather bowling and eating clams at Cadieux Cafe in EEV. I pay a premium for my location, but Detroit has good stuff city-wide. There's no doubt downtown and Midtown have the highest concentration of amenities, but there's no barrier to entry. Anyone can come and use them.

I always wonder why I don't see more people who live in the city and in this region utilizing Detroit's fantastic amenities. The Riverwalk is finally starting to catch on, but there's been times when I basically have the entire thing to myself. It's gorgeous watching the sunset over the Ambassador Bridge! I've sat in Hart Plaza with no one else around just staring up at the skyscrapers. I've taken a lunch on Belle Isle just to watch the clouds go by in total tranquility. I've sat and had a glass of wine and listened to a fantastic blues band play a set and I was the only audience! People in other cities swarm places like this. You have to wait in a line and pay cover. But, not me. Not in Detroit.

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Old 04-15-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Totally.
I always wonder why I don't see more people who live in the city and in this region utilizing Detroit's fantastic amenities. The Riverwalk is finally starting to catch on, but there's been times when I basically have the entire thing to myself. .
I was at work on Sunday afternoon. It was a beautiful day and when I went to get dinner, there were at least 1000 people in the wintergarden and out on the riverwalk area by the Ren Cen. However, I could not get dinner. It was 6:06 p.m. and McDonalds and Subway in the food court had just closed. Andiamo was mobbed (I did nto have time for Andiamo) anyway) and the ice cream and candy store (the only other thing open) had about 40 people in it and waiting to get in. All kinds of people were wandering around wondering where to get something to eat. Since I knew that Greektown woudl be mobbed on a Sunaday afternoon and I had no idea whether any other place withing a decent walk woudl be open, I gave up. I suspect that most of those people looking for something to eat also left hungry.

I do not know where all theose people came from, but someone sure missed an opportunity. Heck a guy with a hot dog cart could have made a fortune.

I ended up eating crackers for dinner.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:01 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Hmm...I believe this article, including its author, was in some other thread. Can't remember which one.
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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I was at work on Sunday afternoon. It was a beautiful day and when I went to get dinner, there were at least 1000 people in the wintergarden and out on the riverwalk area by the Ren Cen. However, I could not get dinner. It was 6:06 p.m. and McDonalds and Subway in the food court had just closed. Andiamo was mobbed (I did nto have time for Andiamo) anyway) and the ice cream and candy store (the only other thing open) had about 40 people in it and waiting to get in. All kinds of people were wandering around wondering where to get something to eat. Since I knew that Greektown woudl be mobbed on a Sunaday afternoon and I had no idea whether any other place withing a decent walk woudl be open, I gave up. I suspect that most of those people looking for something to eat also left hungry.

I do not know where all theose people came from, but someone sure missed an opportunity. Heck a guy with a hot dog cart could have made a fortune.

I ended up eating crackers for dinner.
If you can order in I'd suggest giving Cottage Inn a shot. I ordered entirely too many BBQ chicken subs when I lived and worked in and around downtown.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:29 PM
 
Location: west mich
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I was at work on Sunday afternoon. It was a beautiful day and when I went to get dinner, there were at least 1000 people in the wintergarden and out on the riverwalk area by the Ren Cen. However, I could not get dinner. It was 6:06 p.m. and McDonalds and Subway in the food court had just closed. Andiamo was mobbed (I did nto have time for Andiamo) anyway) and the ice cream and candy store (the only other thing open) had about 40 people in it and waiting to get in. All kinds of people were wandering around wondering where to get something to eat. Since I knew that Greektown woudl be mobbed on a Sunaday afternoon and I had no idea whether any other place withing a decent walk woudl be open, I gave up. I suspect that most of those people looking for something to eat also left hungry.
I do not know where all theose people came from, but someone sure missed an opportunity. Heck a guy with a hot dog cart could have made a fortune.
I ended up eating crackers for dinner.
Wait - I keep hearing that Detroit's a ghost town.
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