Farmington Hills and Novi (Wayne: schools, schedule, county)

[Coldjensens]

Originally Posted by reconmark

Over a paragraph of heresay and not one statistical, school administration, or journalistic article.

Thanks, you have said enough.

This is hilarious. Do you really think that people write articles about someone bringing a knife to school, or getting busted with some pot on the Sr. trip to Cedar Point? Do you really think that someone bothers to keep such stastics?

There are also no stastics or news articles about how many kids peel out in front of the high school. SO I guess in your world, that does not happen either.

I really do nto care whether yo want to live in a ream world where what is happening is not real. However the OP may be interested in some real factual information about what is happeneing in a particular district from people who actually live in the district.

[reconmark]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

This is hilarious. Do you really think that people write articles about someone bringing a knife to school, or getting busted with some pot on the Sr. trip to Cedar Point? Do you really think that someone bothers to keep such stastics?

There are also no stastics or news articles about how many kids peel out in front of the high school. SO I guess in your world, that does not happen either.

I really do nto care whether yo want to live in a ream world where what is happening is not real. However the OP may be interested in some real factual information about what is happeneing in a particular district from people who actually live in the district.

What's hilarious is the condemnation of an entire school based on what your granny's uncle's cousin told you, even more hilarious is that you try to pass it off as fact.

For people that would like something more than the usual "diversity equals crime" reporter, try sites like these:

Parent Reviews of West Bloomfield High School - West Bloomfield, Michigan - MI

[CounselingWithX]

Originally Posted by belleislerunner

Choose either Westland or Garden City. It's more convenient (right off 96) for the trips between Ann Arbor and Detroit (plus it's closer to family/friends) which will be helpful for play dates/hanging out. It's also more economical. There's no point in spending more just to isolate yourself up in F. Hills/Novi.

I would avoid Wasteland and Garbage City.

[DaniellaG]

You know high school is hard because I remember my last year in Birmingham school district high school there being issues too. Some I think is the age of the kids and regardless of where or how a child is brought up some will get in to trouble

[RingWalk]

Originally Posted by reconmark

What's hilarious is the condemnation of an entire school based on what your granny's uncle's cousin told you, even more hilarious is that you try to pass it off as fact.

For people that would like something more than the usual "diversity equals crime" reporter, try sites like these:

Parent Reviews of West Bloomfield High School - West Bloomfield, Michigan - MI

Taking the stance that because there aren't newspaper articles written about something it's not happening is juvenile.

People come to these forums to get the word on the streets, which is often more valuable than a newspaper article.

If you've heard that WBHS isn't bad why don't you just say, "I've heard it's still a great school."

[scottth1]

Originally Posted by Singlelady10

I am moving from the Raleigh, NC area back to Metro Detroit. I have posted here a few times and narrowed my search of places to settle down, Farmington Hills or Novi area. Can anyone give me insight on the different positives and negatives of each area? I will give you a bit of my situation.

32 year old single African American women (need a diverse area)
2 children ages 4 and 10 years old (need excellent school system and low crime)
looking to buy a home in the next 2 years(lowest property and lower cost of living)
We would like a great community center for kids sports.
Easy access to Wayne County area because all of my family live in Deaborn, Westland and Wayne. I will also be getting treatment at the VA hopsital in Ann Arbor or Detroit.

I have looked at Citation Club apartments in FH. I will aso take a tour of Highline Club and River Oaks West apartments in Novi next month.

Based on my situation which area or apartments would be best for a good move back?

Both areas are excellent for families and children. Great schools and all around clean cities. I think Farmington Hills may be your best bet. Lower cost of living than Novi and more diverse. Also, a lot of freeways are easily accessible from Farmington Hills (M-5, 696, 275) and most of them merge with each other in Farmington. If the freeway is busy, you can also take side roads from Farmington just as easily. I can get to dearborn in less than a half hour by taking Telegraph road.

I don't know of any community center in Farmington Hills though. They have leagues for all sports as well as several parks. But a community center they do not have.

Each cities border each so I don't think you can go wrong with either of these cities.

Hope this helps!

[scottth1]

Originally Posted by belleislerunner

Choose either Westland or Garden City. It's more convenient (right off 96) for the trips between Ann Arbor and Detroit (plus it's closer to family/friends) which will be helpful for play dates/hanging out. It's also more economical. There's no point in spending more just to isolate yourself up in F. Hills/Novi.

Westland and Garden City = Trashy Cities.

[reconmark]

Originally Posted by RingWalk

Taking the stance that because there aren't newspaper articles written about something it's not happening is juvenile.

People come to these forums to get the word on the streets, which is often more valuable than a newspaper article.

If you've heard that WBHS isn't bad why don't you just say, "I've heard it's still a great school."

When you trash a school district that you have never seen or attended, that's juvenile. When you defend this type of rumor and stereotyping as you are doing, it's still juvenile.

If you want the word on the street ask people who live there, have children in the schools, and are part of the community.

I posted a link to support my statements, where are the previous poster's or yours???...

An entire school system, according to the previous poster and heralded by yourself, is going down the drain and there's nothing in the news??

Really, you believe that.

[Coldjensens]

Originally Posted by reconmark

What's hilarious is the condemnation of an entire school based on what your granny's uncle's cousin told you, even more hilarious is that you try to pass it off as fact.

For people that would like something more than the usual "diversity equals crime" reporter, try sites like these:

Parent Reviews of West Bloomfield High School - West Bloomfield, Michigan - MI

Wait a minute. This is third party hearsay, the same thing that you are trying to castigate me for relying on. If I have the people that I know who attended/attend WBHS post their experiences on the Great school website, will that make you feel better. These are not researched news reports, just a couple of people a year trying to fluff their school. The only difference is that I actually know people who recently attended or currently attend the school, while the frantic poster above is relying on the representations of strangers who may or may not have attended there. Those posts may well have been posted by teachers or administrators. However assuming that those posts came from someone who actually attended the school, the do not dispute what I stated. (at least not the ones that i read, I only read three of four but once I got to fix or six years ago, I did not continue reading since posts from that long ago do not have any bearing on a current trend.) I have used great schools for information for years, but it is almost always people coming in to puff their school it is not a balance report since people who have problems or concerns about a particular school do not go to a place like "great schools"

And note not one of them says that it is not sliding. They do not say that it is on a positive trend, just say that they think it is a good school. They do not say that a bunch of kids were not busted for smoking pot on the Cedar point trip a couple of year ago, they do not say that drug busts, bullying, problem students and crime at the school are not on the rise, not one of them says that. they say that threre are a lot of AP classes. The people that i know who attended/attend there also think it is a reasonably good school but related that it is on a general downhill trend. Things are getting worse. It is a less great school than it used to be and it appears to be headed to becoming an even less great school in future years.

This poster is also having a problem with reading comprehension. Reading and understanding what you read can be difficult, but I never said nor implied that diversity is the cause of WBHS negative trend. In fact, I never said that WBHS had any diversity (although they may be more diverse than many of the better schools). I do not think tat WBHS problems has anything to do with diversity. To my knowledge they are not more diverse today than they were five years ago. What does diversity have to do with anything?

I also did not say that WBHS is a bad school. It is still a very good school. What I said was that it is trending toward less good and this poster has not posted anything to the contrary. Nothing that this poster has stated or referenced says that WBHS is not experiencing more and more drug, crime bullying and a general decline in student discipline and quality. I never said that I have personal knowledge of this decline either (although I have visited the school 20- 50 or so times in the past 5 years to attend sporting events, plays, awards ceremonies, and the like).

If these frantic and strident posts, based on miscomprehension and presumption are a product of WBHS, perhps this poster should return to the school, obtain some perosnalknowlege of what is going on there, and take some reading comprehension and understanding classes. Perhaps a logic or debate class would be beneficial as well. You can still learn these things at WBHS though it might not be quite as good as it was.

[reconmark]

Sometimes I fail to exhibit the required amount of sympathy to the out of touch and the elderly. Upon introspection I realize how frightening it is for certain demographics to comprehend a changing world around them and the illogical assumption that things must be trending down based on their nostalgic fantasy of the way things used to be.

Of course with the inclusion of more diverse people there will be among the less enlightened an assumption that the quality of an institution is on the decline, that been a recurring theme among some people in this country ever since Brown v. Board of Education. History has always shown the real and underlying motive for their views, fortunately more and more people find those views distasteful.

For people that live in today's reality and have the irrational fear of "others" attending a school I say this.

WBHS is an out standing school both academically and socially. If you are adult enough to understand that in today's society and workplace your children will be exposed to different races, creeds, and colors then the diverse learning atmosphere can only give them a leg up on real life.

West Bloomfield High School has begun to offer the Advanced Placement International Diploma to the classes of 2011 and beyond. In addition, it established additional Advanced Placement courses starting the 2010-2011 school year.

The school has been recognized by Newsweek magazine as being in the top 6% of U.S. public high schools.[2] It is also the top feeder school to the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, as well as Michigan State University, East Lansing.

West Bloomfield High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No place will meet 100% of the needs of perspective residents and students, however if the friend of a friend's uncle is telling you of a downward trend at WBHS please do yourself a favor and look into it for yourself.

I live here, my children attend school here, and I see the level and sophistication of their homework.
I'm not passing along any second hand hearsay and if you want to be informed of an excellent school system I base my opinion on daily interaction.

I can't and won't change the bias that anyone wishes to hold on to and I'm not inclined to do so, again diversity doesn't equal a downward trend, a rise in crime, or a lowering of standards, a changing world doesn't frighten most adults who live beyond their front doors.