View Poll Results: Do u think this is a good idea?
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07-22-2011, 03:12 PM
Location: Detroit
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Im new here and idk if anyone did a thread about this already but for the people that don't know. Somerset Collection will bring mini versions of several of its stores — including Neiman Marcus, Michael Kors, Saks Fifth Avenue, Coach, Lego, the Gap and a HA¤agen-Dazs ice cream cart — to downtown Detroit later this month. Moderator cut: link removed, please read the tos
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07-22-2011, 03:30 PM
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"CityLoft will be open the last Thursday, Friday and Saturday of every month..."
I don't get it. They're only going to be opened 3 days a month?
07-22-2011, 03:58 PM
Location: Downtown Detroit
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I don't get it. They're only going to be opened 3 days a month?
It seems to me like Somerset is "testing the water" before potentially opening up something on a much larger scale. Consider the possible dominant position Somerset would be in if it were the first in line to control Detroit's future retail market. It could be huge for them. It's also good PR with so many folks pulling for a Detroit comeback these days.
I doubt Somerset plans for CityLoft to be wildly profitable considering the limited schedule. I think it's more a way to gauge interest, measure demand, and scope out the neighborhood and its residents. I will definitely be stopping in to see what they're about. Any company that offers to satisfy an unmet need in the city has my business.
07-22-2011, 05:00 PM
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I think For Starters makes a very valid point. At the risk of offending people, it hasn't been hipsters that have had much impact on Detroit. What did have an impact on downtown was building Ford Field and Comerica Park smack dab in the middle of Grand Circus Park next to each other. That was smart. Those two things were game changers. That whole area began to resemble a more normal downtown whereas in the 90s there was almost NOTHING to do down there.
07-22-2011, 06:23 PM
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I think this is a great idea. Like it or not, especially in this generation, cities ar more and more judged by their core. And downtown Detroit needs some nice retail. You can tell people not familiar with metro Detroit about all the great shopping at Somerset, Birmingham, and the rest of Oakland County all one wants, but their whole image of SE MIchigan is based on downtown Detroit.
07-22-2011, 07:21 PM
Location: Detroit
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I think this is a great idea. Like it or not, especially in this generation, cities ar more and more judged by their core. And downtown Detroit needs some nice retail. You can tell people not familiar with metro Detroit about all the great shopping at Somerset, Birmingham, and the rest of Oakland County all one wants, but their whole image of SE MIchigan is based on downtown Detroit.
THAT is a 100% true statement. Chicago for example: Alot of people visiting Chicago have only been downtown. Especially the ones that don't know anyone there. And I bet the average New York tourist is spending the majority of their time in Manhattan. But I personally believe cities and landmarks number of visitors is sort of determined by how interesting it LOOKS on TV or whatever. South Beach, Hollywood, Broadway, 5th Ave, ect.
07-24-2011, 10:58 AM
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It's not just perception it's cultivating a tax base, for one.
07-24-2011, 12:30 PM
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And who will be the customer base? Is there really that kind of money in the area to support a Somerset Collection?
07-24-2011, 01:57 PM
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THAT is a 100% true statement. Chicago for example: Alot of people visiting Chicago have only been downtown. Especially the ones that don't know anyone there. And I bet the average New York tourist is spending the majority of their time in Manhattan. But I personally believe cities and landmarks number of visitors is sort of determined by how interesting it LOOKS on TV or whatever. South Beach, Hollywood, Broadway, 5th Ave, ect.
Not just Manhattan, but a very small square of Manhattan: from about lower Central Park (north), Broadway or 7th Ave. (west), 5th Ave (east) and 34th Street (south); at least according to NYC travel experts I've read, as being where 80+% of NYC visitors confine themselves to. Of course, being New York this includes Times Square (the single greatest, non-stop human carnival on earth), the Theatre District, Lincoln Center, shopping (Macy's @ 34th), Empire State Building, including Radio City & the Rockettes, and of course, New York's finest restaurants ... and more... That's enough to fill anyone's agenda; heck, Times Sq, alone, would be enough...
Retail, esp along lower Woodward would be a major jump start for downtown Detroit, and if Somerset could get in front of this...
I just wish Cleveland's fancy suburban stores, ... ie Beachwood Place, would try something like that for Downtown Cleveland here....
07-24-2011, 09:31 PM
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Not just Manhattan, but a very small square of Manhattan: from about lower Central Park (north), Broadway or 7th Ave. (west), 5th Ave (east) and 34th Street (south); at least according to NYC travel experts I've read, as being where 80+% of NYC visitors confine themselves to. Of course, being New York this includes Times Square (the single greatest, non-stop human carnival on earth), the Theatre District, Lincoln Center, shopping (Macy's @ 34th), Empire State Building, including Radio City & the Rockettes, and of course, New York's finest restaurants ... and more... That's enough to fill anyone's agenda; heck, Times Sq, alone, would be enough...
Wow. I thought those things were spread out all over Manhattan. And yes it could be, I mean downtown Detroit has things that many cities does not and they should really take advantage of that. It could be one of the greatest places to be in a perfect world. And someone from Cleveland will probably try something like that eventually, if it works for Detroit, probably sooner.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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