talk radio (tax, bills, suite)

[edub]

Talk radio doesn't seem to be an effective medium for Liberal ideas. Liberal ideas seem better suited to expletive ladened internet blogs and other childish forums such as The Daily Show or Colbert Report.

This makes sense because most Liberal ideas fall apart when discussed or contemplated at length or in a serious manner.

If you want to really expand your mind try listening to AM 1400. Specifically, Dennis Prager at 1pm and Michael Medved at 3pm. You won't hear the PC America bashing, rabid anti-Semitism and vulgar language that Liberals are so fond of but you will learn a great deal.

[Bhaalspawn]

Originally Posted by edub

Talk radio doesn't seem to be an effective medium for Liberal ideas. Liberal ideas seem better suited to expletive ladened internet blogs and other childish forums such as The Daily Show or Colbert Report.

This makes sense because most Liberal ideas fall apart when discussed or contemplated at length or in a serious manner.

Maybe you just haven't been exposed to forceful debaters who can absolutely tear apart the dogmatism on the right? It really isn't very hard to expose the wrongheadedness of advocates of religious dictatorship and free market dogma. I do agree with you that there aren't many if any good left-leaning ideologues on talk radio.

[edub]

Originally Posted by Bhaalspawn

Maybe you just haven't been exposed to forceful debaters who can absolutely tear apart the dogmatism on the right? It really isn't very hard to expose the wrongheadedness of advocates of religious dictatorship and free market dogma. I do agree with you that there aren't many if any good left-leaning ideologues on talk radio.

The best Left wing debaters are regularly and consistently eviscerated by the talking heads on the Right even to the point to which they refuse to debate them, choosing instead simply to hurl insults as you have done above.

That is why the Left has taken to infiltrating our schools. Their ideas fail so miserably in the marketplace of ideas that they find it necessary to indoctrinate captive audiences of young impressionable minds in the absence of any opposing viewpoint.

The fact that you even think that people on the Right necessarily argue from a standpoint of religious dogma proves that you are woefully uninformed as to the crux of Conservative thought. But hey, that is the way of the Left; why understand something when it is so much easier simply to insult it.

That, brings me back to my original point. People on the Left have little use for actual knowledge or ideas. They think in terms of pure dogma and in projecting their own dogma onto those with whom they disagree. Therefore, there is no need for talk radio. There is only need for vitriol, baseless accusations, mis-characterizations and personal attacks. It is hard to keep up that kind of childish yammering for as much time as would be needed to produce a radio show and that is why they all fail.

[Bhaalspawn]

Pot, kettle, black?

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by Nor'Bro'

The big money people are rightists, the radio stations are owned by rightists, the talk they broadcast is rightist, and I might add very self-centered and self-serving. The little money prople have no radio voice.

You are correct. People who say popularity is simply market-driven supply and demand are denying the fact that corporations (including corporate media) have political self-interest, and prefer Republicans.
The Republican party is the party of "anything for profit" and corporations realize that if they gain control they will gladly do away with such things as anti-trust, truth in advertising/labeling, minimum wage, unions, child labor laws (you can see how all these stand in the way of profit).
Corporate oligarchy is embraced by today's conservative, so don't be surprised if progressive (favoring a measure of regulation and balance) radio remains hard to find.
BTW don't believe the claims that NPR is a source of leftist ideology. This would be a rightist telling you that since there is an occasional piece on corporate malfeasance, then it is in some way left-wing. Honest business without malfeasance is NOT leftist.
Today's "left" is merely the "left-of-Limbaugh" (L.O.L.) which is not "left" at all! NPR is a corporation also and must please its advertisers (notice its oil company sponsors).
Nothing wrong with corporate sponsorship - just keep this in mind as you watch it or anything else.

[TP99C5]

Originally Posted by canudigit

Radio stations broadcast what brings in listeners, because ratings = money. For whatever reason, there is not a market for liberal talk radio in many markets, hence Rush, Sean, Glenn, etc. are the voices of talk radio. It isn't about who owns the stations, it's about which shows attract listeners. Didn't anyone ever tell you that money makes the world go 'round? The "little money people" would be amazed at what a big radio voice they would have if they supported talk radio. It's not like the big media in this country supports conservative thought or anything, it's about what people want to hear and advertisers want to be where the listeners are.

I agree!

[detwahDJ]

The basic message of conservative talk is Republicans-GOOD, Democrats-BAD! And "most Americans" want to hear this message (according to Hannity, etc). In other words it's all popular demand.
Yet Democrats win elections. Why do people who vote Democrat want to constantly hear "Republicans-better"? Seems like the market is at least 50% Democrat. Popular demand...??
And the corporate-owned networks don't have political preferences??

[tigger37708]

No market for Liberal Talk Radio.
Not financially viable.
Besides every other Major media outlet is Liberal.
The financial success of Conservative Talk Radio is because it is unique.
It satisfies the Conservative majority that is starving for news and commentary not spun to the left.

[tigger37708]

Originally Posted by edub

The best Left wing debaters are regularly and consistently eviscerated by the talking heads on the Right even to the point to which they refuse to debate them, choosing instead simply to hurl insults as you have done above.

That is why the Left has taken to infiltrating our schools. Their ideas fail so miserably in the marketplace of ideas that they find it necessary to indoctrinate captive audiences of young impressionable minds in the absence of any opposing viewpoint.

The fact that you even think that people on the Right necessarily argue from a standpoint of religious dogma proves that you are woefully uninformed as to the crux of Conservative thought. But hey, that is the way of the Left; why understand something when it is so much easier simply to insult it.

That, brings me back to my original point. People on the Left have little use for actual knowledge or ideas. They think in terms of pure dogma and in projecting their own dogma onto those with whom they disagree. Therefore, there is no need for talk radio. There is only need for vitriol, baseless accusations, mis-characterizations and personal attacks. It is hard to keep up that kind of childish yammering for as much time as would be needed to produce a radio show and that is why they all fail.

This +1

[detwahDJ]

Originally Posted by tigger37708

No market for Liberal Talk Radio.
Not financially viable.
Besides every other Major media outlet is Liberal.
The financial success of Conservative Talk Radio is because it is unique.
It satisfies the Conservative majority that is starving for news and commentary not spun to the left.

*Corporate conservatives own 99% of the "mainstream" media (they are corporations you know). So why would corporations pump out socialist propaganda? A grand socialist plot?
*If you somehow see the conservative-owned mainstream media as liberal, then that speaks to your own rightist ideological position. "Liberal" media is MSNBC, not NBC.
*If the mainstream media was truly liberal, it would be attacking Fox/Limbaugh/Rove/Ayles/you-name-it! Have you heard any of this?
*Conservative talk doesn't satisfy a "conservative majority", it is the voice of plutocracy (un-American but apparently desired by some).