Matty Moroun in jail (Detroit, Sparta: contractor, design, stations)

[Retroit]

I did. I'm the one that posted it.

Still can't admit you were wrong, can you?

[scolls]

It clearly says in the article that Moroun's duty free shop is still in the way of completing the project.

This doesn't make sense to me. Retroit spends so much effort defending a billionaire who is wrong, who owns vacant buildings all over the city, who has taken property that isn't his, and has done whatever he could to screw the city over. He then goes and complains about Mike Illitch who has invested millions of dollars in Detroit, who has campaigned for the city of Detroit, and who has always been an ambassador for Detroit, just because he signed a player to his baseball team. The only explanation is he's a troll. It's pretty classic. Take the side of the villain and oppose the good guy.

[Retroit]

The failure of the state to build their portion is the reason the trucks are going down Lafayette, but you can't admit that can you? It wouldn't conform with your Socialist Utopia, will it?

Don't feel embarrassed, guys. It's okay to be wrong. (Not that I would know. )

[scolls]

Originally Posted by Retroit

The failure of the state to build their portion is the reason the trucks are going down Lafayette, but you can't admit that can you? It wouldn't conform with your Socialist Utopia, will it?

Don't feel embarrassed, guys. It's okay to be wrong. (Not that I would know. )

Your failure to read is astonishing. First off, you blindly believe a guy who is a known liar. Second, the portion MDOT is building is on Moroun's property, and finally, Moroun still hasn't completed his end of the agreement.

"Cranson said the state expects to have the ramp built by Memorial Day, but other disagreements with the bridge company are still unresolved – particularly about a separate ramp the bridge company built in anticipation of a proposed second span of the Ambassador that the Moroun organization wants to build but is opposed by the Canadian government. MDOT said the pier is in the way of what was supposed to be a dedicated road for trucks on the bridge plaza and must be moved farther from Fort Street or removed altogether."

Don't feel embarrassed. There are plenty of adults who are illiterate.

[animatedmartian]

Originally Posted by Retroit

I just saw a commercial on Channel 2 put out by Maroun. They said they built their portion of the bridge, but that the state didn't build their portion.

I'm not saying this is true or false nor that I agree or disagree with it. Just thought I'd point it out.

Found the ad.


Gateway Ramps - What blocks full use? - YouTube

The whole ad isn't even really worth commenting on...

[Retroit]

Originally Posted by scolls

[edit: not worth responding to]...the portion MDOT is building is on Moroun's property, [edit: already disproven]

Would you sign a contract to build something on property you have no rights too? Wouldn't that be a measure of incompetence, negligence, stupidity, etc.? You argued that contracts were inviolable, and now you think that the state should be given all sorts of breaks to correct their lack of diligence.

"Cranson said the state expects to have the ramp built by Memorial Day, but other disagreements with the bridge company are still unresolved – particularly about a separate ramp the bridge company built in anticipation of a proposed second span of the Ambassador that the Moroun organization wants to build but is opposed by the Canadian government. MDOT said the pier is in the way of what was supposed to be a dedicated road for trucks on the bridge plaza and must be moved farther from Fort Street or removed altogether."

It's a moot point. If the state hasn't built their portion of the ramp, what good is there in having a road that leads to it? That pier is right up to the property line. I don't see (albeit as a non-engineer) how that pier could be moved further out of the way without putting it on Fort Street. Doesn't it abut the pier for the current bridge? That pier is not what is causing trucks to use Lafayette. The failure of the state to build their portion is what is causing trucks to use Lafayette.

So all that the people of that area have been complaining about was the states fault all along. Yet, because Moroun hasn't rehabilitated the MCS to some unknown use, he's the bad guy.

[Coldjensens]

Just ot be clear. Do you believe that the court put Maroun in jail because the State failed to build their ramp?

[Retroit]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

Just ot be clear. Do you believe that the court put Maroun in jail because the State failed to build their ramp?

No, I believe the judge put Maroun in jail as a favor to the Governor for appointing the judge's son to a judgeship, and/or maybe because he is anti-capitalist or anti-private ownership, and/or maybe because he wants to win political favor with the residents of that area, etc. I also don't think the judge familiarized himself thoroughly with the case by consulting with Maroun and perhaps reviewing the contract, land titles, touring the site, etc. Had he done so, he may have discovered that the state was lying to him.

It could be said that the court put Maruon in jail in spite of the fact that it was the State that failed to build their ramp. And if failing to build a ramp is justification for putting someone in jail, then I guess the Governor should be put in jail.

[Tyveker]

Originally Posted by Retroit

No, I believe the judge put Maroun in jail as a favor to the Governor for appointing the judge's son to a judgeship, and/or maybe because he is anti-capitalist or anti-private ownership, and/or maybe because he wants to win political favor with the residents of that area, etc. I also don't think the judge familiarized himself thoroughly with the case by consulting with Maroun and perhaps reviewing the contract, land titles, touring the site, etc. Had he done so, he may have discovered that the state was lying to him.

It could be said that the court put Maruon in jail in spite of the fact that it was the State that failed to build their ramp. And if failing to build a ramp is justification for putting someone in jail, then I guess the Governor should be put in jail.

Yeah, obviously the honest man who's involved with this is the one who tells the truth, who cares deeply about the residents of the area:

Anti-Bridge Group Issues Fake Eviction Notices | News - Home

The state didn't build their part because they couldn't legally do so without Moroun's company making it legally possible. Moroun was put in jail because he broke his legal agreement (the duty stores, the gas pumps, not permitting the state do construct what they needed to).

[Retroit]

Anti-Bridge Group Issues Fake Eviction Notices | News - Home

"Let me be clear that the Detroit International Bridge Company had nothing to do with the bogus eviction notices posted at homes in southwest Detroit yesterday. Although we disagree with plans for a bridge that would disrupt the neighborhood and displace residents, we would never distribute misleading information to disturb or upset residents," said Bridge Company president, Dan Stamper.

If I lived in that area I would be upset that my home was going to be taken and I was going to have to move. So I could understand someone in that area trying to rally up the other residents in opposition to a bridge in that area.

What would be really ironic is hearing the people in that area complain about all the noise and pollution after the state's bridge was built there.