Matty Moroun in jail (Detroit, Wayne: lawyer, home, buy)

[johnr83]

Originally Posted by Retroit

It seems odd to me that the rebuilding of the expressway and tollways was complete a couple years ago, yet is taking till now to resolve it.

Because he was ordered do the project correctly a couple years ago so that MDOT can finish the project, and now is when the court is following up on that order and found that he wasn't compliant. Again, this is how the legal system works in this country.

[Retroit]

Originally Posted by scolls

I said after the road was built. The duty free shop was not part of the plans. Walmart can't just open a store in the middle of Gratiot and then tell MDOT they are going to reroute traffic around the store. The problem is, he built it right in the middle of the roadway he agreed to build and then rerouted traffic without MDOT approval.

That's not what the graphic shows. It looks to me like the duty-free shop was built on property that Matty owns. The road looks like it is in the same position.

[scolls]

Originally Posted by Retroit

That's not what the graphic shows. It looks to me like the duty-free shop was built on property that Matty owns. The road looks like it is in the same position.

When the contract was originally agreed upon, Mouron didn't own the property. He later bought the property, built his shop, then altered the roadway to benefit himself.

[johnr83]

Originally Posted by scolls

I said after the road was built. The duty free shop was not part of the plans. Walmart can't just open a store in the middle of Gratiot and then tell MDOT they are going to reroute traffic around the store. The problem is, he built it right in the middle of the roadway he agreed to build and then rerouted traffic without MDOT approval.

He actually built it partly on an already existing roadway that had never actually been cleared. That's what I find so irritating about him - he thinks any land adjacent to his own can be used for his own purposes. For example, the fencing in of the property surrounding the base of the bridge - it isn't his property, but he stores concrete tubes and metal pipes on it, the padlock's on the gates are his company's. He says it's for "homeland security", but they somehow manage on the Canadian side to have an attractive frontage around the bridge, probably because he doesn't own or control any of that property!

[Retroit]

Originally Posted by scolls

I was hoping to be educated on why Mouron's plan is more logical and why it is ok to willingly break laws. This has been ongoing for years. It still isn't resolved.

I gave you my opinion:

1. Okay, I see how the inbound trucks need to use Fort Street to get back on I-75, but really, what's the big deal? It's not like they are going down residential streets. That area is mostly vacant land with a few businesses. The trucks would be using the right lane adjacent to the tollbooth/duty free area, so it's not like they will block the entrance to businesses. Johnr83 has subsequently explained the Lafayette Road situation, but I have also presented an easy fix.
2. What the hell is a bait shop doing right in the center of an major international border crossing complex, and why does it need its own road which would necessitate a bridge strong enough to carry trucks? So, the few people that shop/work there have to drive around to the other side. Whoopee! Apparently no longer a factor.
3. Where are the entrance toll booths in the MDOT plan? Looks like they drive right on. Still waiting on this one.
4. It looks like Matty's plan has more roadway within the complex, which should help keep more of the traffic off the roads. ...and this
5. Where would the duty-free shop and gas station be located in the MDOT plan? It seems pretty logically located in Matty's plan. ...and this.

[johnr83]

I think it's pretty clear by now that you have very superficial knowledge about this project, and refuse to learn more about it.

[Retroit]

Originally Posted by scolls

When the contract was originally agreed upon, Mouron didn't own the property. He later bought the property, built his shop, then altered the roadway to benefit himself.

The road appears to be in the same location, although it appears that trucks bypass the duty-free shop.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept of duty-free shops. Are you guys saying that this shop should have been built outside the tollway complex? ...or that it shouldn't have been built at all? I always assumed that all crossings have a duty-free store. Am I wrong?

[Retroit]

Originally Posted by johnr83

I think it's pretty clear by now that you have very superficial knowledge about this project, and refuse to learn more about it.

Then why would I have spent time studying the plans and posing these questions? I'm trying to compare the merits of each plan, and it appears to me that Maroun's is superior (with the necessity of using Lafayette Rd an exception).

[johnr83]

We're saying a duty-free shop doesn't justify not doing the entire reason for the project - to get vehicles off the local streets. When trucks still get dumped on Fort Street, there was absolutely no point in doing this project in the first place. Do you pay taxes?

[Retroit]

Originally Posted by johnr83

We're saying a duty-free shop doesn't justify not doing the entire reason for the project - to get vehicles off the local streets. When trucks still get dumped on Fort Street, there was absolutely no point in doing this project in the first place. Do you pay taxes?

I think you're confusing the two issues. The duty-free shop doesn't have anything to do with Fort Street. And as I pointed out, in the schematics, Maroun's plan was supposed to use the same entrance ramp that MDOT's plan would have used. Upon looking at Google Maps, that entrance ramp appears to still be there (perhaps unfinished? -can't tell), so the traffic on Fort Street could easily be connected to this ramp.

Yes, I pay taxes. What does that have to do with this?