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Old 10-09-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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It's like a game of monopoly...who owns Detroit?
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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Idiot politicians and "gangs."
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Well.

Dan Gilbert and Mike Ilitch own downtown.
Wayne State owns Midtown.
Henry Ford Hospital and DPS own New Center but it's slowly being gobbled up by Wayne State.
Matty Moroun owns Delray (although technically the bridge and MCS are more in Corktown, Moroun blocks development that'd take place in Delray).
Gangs own the 7 Mile/Gratiot area as well as Joy Road and Southfield Freeway.
Druglords own Davison and Linwood.
Hispanics own Southwest Detroit.
The state wants to own Belle Isle.

Or for people who still live in 1970, black people own Detroit and white people want to take it over and maybe make it better but keeping black people in restricted ghettos.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:13 PM
 
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Well.

Dan Gilbert and Mike Ilitch own downtown.
Wayne State owns Midtown.
Henry Ford Hospital and DPS own New Center but it's slowly being gobbled up by Wayne State.
Matty Moroun owns Delray (although technically the bridge and MCS are more in Corktown, Moroun blocks development that'd take place in Delray).
Gangs own the 7 Mile/Gratiot area as well as Joy Road and Southfield Freeway.
Druglords own Davison and Linwood.
Hispanics own Southwest Detroit.
The state wants to own Belle Isle.

Or for people who still live in 1970, black people own Detroit and white people want to take it over and maybe make it better but keeping black people in restricted ghettos.

Ok, be patient...I'm trying to learn what happens to the actual property of an area such as blocks and blocks of empty houses/buildings when they are abandoned. There are some things I know jack-sht about and I don't mind saying. Real estate is one of those areas.

Ok. Regarding these:

"Gangs own the 7 Mile/Gratiot area as well as Joy Road and Southfield Freeway.
Druglords own Davison and Linwood.
Hispanics own Southwest Detroit."


Do the gangs, druglords and Hispanics own the deeds to the properties or do banks?

Maybe it sounds like a stupid question, (although I was told long ago there are no stupid questions)...but who is responsible for the clean up of those huge areas not lived in or used by industry? Did the druglords purchase the areas? Where are the deeds?

Who is going to clean up the mess? Why isn't the law being enforced to clean it up?


Ok, found some links but how much of it is true? Sorry, always a skeptic I am, (yoda voice, well, or Seuss).

Interactive map: Who owns the most private property in Detroit? | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Private landowners complicate reshaping of Detroit | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Hero or Villain: Matty Moroun on His Detroit Holdings - The Detroit Blog - TIME.com

Detroit still hunting down Packard plant owner

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Old 10-09-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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Abandoned property reverts back to the city.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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If you know the street address of a property you can check ownership/tax status here:Pay Taxes Online

If property taxes aren't paid then ownership will revert to city/county after the foreclosure process runs its course.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Ok, be patient...I'm trying to learn what happens to the actual property of an area such as blocks and blocks of empty houses/buildings when they are abandoned. There are some things I know jack-sht about and I don't mind saying. Real estate is one of those areas.

Ok. Regarding these:

"Gangs own the 7 Mile/Gratiot area as well as Joy Road and Southfield Freeway.
Druglords own Davison and Linwood.
Hispanics own Southwest Detroit."


Do the gangs, druglords and Hispanics own the deeds to the properties or do banks?

Maybe it sounds like a stupid question, (although I was told long ago there are no stupid questions)...but who is responsible for the clean up of those huge areas not lived in or used by industry? Did the druglords purchase the areas? Where are the deeds?

Who is going to clean up the mess? Why isn't the law being enforced to clean it up?


Ok, found some links but how much of it is true? Sorry, always a skeptic I am, (yoda voice, well, or Seuss).

Interactive map: Who owns the most private property in Detroit? | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Private landowners complicate reshaping of Detroit | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Hero or Villain: Matty Moroun on His Detroit Holdings - The Detroit Blog - TIME.com

Detroit still hunting down Packard plant owner
Lol, my post was a tongue in cheek joke.

But yea, most of the land is owned by the city and the county (and I think some of it is owned by the state). And then a lot of homes are still owned by banks but typically most have been gutted out.

Why Don't We Own This?

As far as the city tracking down and enforcing the law to fine the property owners, well they do, but look at how many properties and how many owners there are. In a normal city, you'd have maybe one section of the city where this was common, but with Detroit, it's pretty widespread. Just the bureaucracy behind it all slows down the government 10 fold.

Not too long ago, the owner of the Packard Plant tried to get demolition permits to demolish the structure, but then it turns out he needed millions of dollars that he didn't have to go through with the process (he claims that the scrap metal from the site will pay for the demolition. Right.) And anyone who buys it and tears it down and try to make money back won't be able to do it. It's pretty much a guaranteed loss in investment. Someone would really have to find a creative way to reuse the building or sections of it while demolishing other parts. Keep in mind, PP is 3.5 million square feet. The Willis Tower in Chicago is 4.1 million square feet. So basically, it's an abandoned supertall skyscraper laid out horizontally. Not an easy task to deal with regardless of whoever the owner is (whether it be private or the city).

And of course, Detroit is also going through a financial crisis...so once Detroit actually acquired the land or property, they don't have much money themselves to do anything with it. At this point, grass gets cut every few months, if ever. Totally not exaggerating either.


New sidewalks for empty lots!? Scott Lewis Investigates - YouTube
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:42 AM
 
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Many of the owners are corporations that have disappeared. Many of the private owners have also disappeared. It is not unusual for someone to die and leave no identifiable heirs, or the heirs simply do not wnat the property. Banks frequently do not foreclose on Detroit properties becasue they do nto want the potential liability. The City does nto foreclose on Detroit properties because they do nto have the resources to pursue the delinquent tax obligations. In many cases, although there may be names on deeds the actual answer is "nobody".

There was a Wayne County tax auction a while back that included many detroit properties with a $500 minimum bid. Some of the properties recieved no bids.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:57 AM
 
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Abandoned property reverts back to the city.
Or squatters take ove as is the case in Boston-Edison.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Many of the owners are corporations that have disappeared. Many of the private owners have also disappeared. It is not unusual for someone to die and leave no identifiable heirs, or the heirs simply do not wnat the property. Banks frequently do not foreclose on Detroit properties becasue they do nto want the potential liability. The City does nto foreclose on Detroit properties because they do nto have the resources to pursue the delinquent tax obligations. In many cases, although there may be names on deeds the actual answer is "nobody".

There was a Wayne County tax auction a while back that included many detroit properties with a $500 minimum bid. Some of the properties recieved no bids.

That is really interesting. So, basically, it's like this:



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Thanks for the info.
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