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Old 06-10-2015, 10:01 PM
 
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Old 06-11-2015, 07:06 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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I don't understand why a historical commission would be forced (let's face it) to approve the tearing down of a historic building. It completely discredits them. Why doesn't the city council just say that economic development trumps historical preservation and that the Historical Commission will not be voting on the matter?

And I'm still doubtful that the Joe Louis Arena won't turn into an eyesore that lingers long after the new arena is opened.

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Old 06-12-2015, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas area
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I don't understand why a historical commission would be forced (let's face it) to approve the tearing down of a historic building. It completely discredits them. Why doesn't the city council just say that economic development trumps historical preservation and that the Historical Commission will not be voting on the matter?

And I'm still doubtful that the Joe Louis Arena won't turn into an eyesore that lingers long after the new arena is opened.

I expect the historical commission solicited viable alternatives to the historic structure being demolished, but did not receive any that merited denying the go-ahead to destroy the structure.

It's easy for you & I to cry over historic structures being razed, but I --& I assume you too-- didn't submit any decent alternatives to revive the existing structure & generate revenue.
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I expect the historical commission solicited viable alternatives to the historic structure being demolished, but did not receive any that merited denying the go-ahead to destroy the structure.

It's easy for you & I to cry over historic structures being razed, but I --& I assume you too-- didn't submit any decent alternatives to revive the existing structure & generate revenue.
It didn't really matter if there were any alternatives. It wasn't about whether the building could generate revenue; there's been plenty successful renovations with larger buildings closer downtown, but the stadium's revenue (which the city doesn't get back) was more important. And the stadium couldn't maximize it's revenue if it didn't have some loading dock that could hold more trucks.
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:47 PM
 
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Good grief will the handwringing ever stop.

It was likely a flophouse since the 30s.
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Good grief will the handwringing ever stop.

It was likely a flophouse since the 30s.
Not sure what difference that makes. All of downtown was a ghetto at some point and the selectivity on what's been preserved and what's been demolished has been pretty arbitrary.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:50 PM
 
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Not sure what difference that makes. All of downtown was a ghetto at some point and the selectivity on what's been preserved and what's been demolished has been pretty arbitrary.
I honestly just don't understand people being upset about abandoned buildings being demolished to make way for hugely invigorating new projects; it's like saying I'm going to let go of controls of a plane to chase a mosquito.

I just think it's a difference in philosophy... some people at an early age, I suppose, become comfortable with simply criticizing everything around them, and unburden themselves of any kind of perspective.
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Old 06-13-2015, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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And I'm still doubtful that the Joe Louis Arena won't turn into an eyesore that lingers long after the new arena is opened.

Joe Louis Arena is to be demolished.

Detroit's Joe Louis Arena set to be demolished in 2017 - CBSSports.com
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Old 06-13-2015, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I honestly just don't understand people being upset about abandoned buildings being demolished to make way for hugely invigorating new projects; it's like saying I'm going to let go of controls of a plane to chase a mosquito.
The Park Avenue building is being replaced with a grass field. It's not under the footprint of any of the new buildings being constructed. The were smaller historical buildings that were under the footprint of the new buildings and have been demolished without a problem, but this one building is literally not being replaced with anything.
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Old 06-13-2015, 04:09 PM
 
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Both hotels were built by the same developer, were designed by the same architect, were built at the same time, on the same street, 40 feet away from each other. It just doesn't seem right that only one hotel will survive. Ilitch said he wanted his DISTRICT to include a hotel and lots of housing. These 2 buildings were opportunities to provide new housing while preserving the history of that area. These are classic and unique (because of their height) buildings in the city's 2nd most architecturally significant neighborhood.
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