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Old 07-15-2015, 08:25 PM
 
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yes it was hyperbole, but Farmington Hills is held in high esteem in most of the area regardless of whether you're in the ritzier part or the "worst part". It's not Livonia where there's a schizo split between the lowest rungs of lower middle class and $600,000 houses.
Do you wanna check to see what suburbs you're talking about?

There's literally no homes in Livonia that sell for $600,000. The most expensive new construction homes top out around $340,000.

In fact, Farmington Hills is where there is a split between the million dollar homes on the northwest side and sub-100K homes on the southeast side.

Either way, it seems like you're trying to create a false sense of snobbery that actually isn't prevalent in FH. Hardly anyone refers to FH or Livonia when talking about Detroit's trophy suburbs or even bad suburbs. They're pretty much both the same in every way and have strip malls, McMansions, and are pretty much safe and boring.
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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yes it was hyperbole, but Farmington Hills is held in high esteem in most of the area regardless of whether you're in the ritzier part or the "worst part". It's not Livonia where there's a schizo split between the lowest rungs of lower middle class and $600,000 houses.
There's livonia, and then there's 'deep livonia' south of 5 mile that gives livonia all the bad rep that it has.


Between 6-8 mile you have all these big new homes.It's pretty much indistinguishable from the nicer parts of FH south of 696 or Novi.
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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There's livonia, and then there's 'deep livonia' south of 5 mile that gives livonia all the bad rep that it has.


Between 6-8 mile you have all these big new homes.It's pretty much indistinguishable from the nicer parts of FH south of 696 or Novi.
NE Livonia - north of 6 mile and west of Middlebelt - is the most run down part of the city.
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Old 07-17-2015, 05:02 PM
 
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NE Livonia - north of 6 mile and west of Middlebelt - is the most run down part of the city.
You're thinking the clarenceville school district part? I agree. Wasn't thinking about that.

Outside of that corner, the parts of Livonia that go to Stevenson have some nice big new homes.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:04 AM
 
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You're thinking the clarenceville school district part? I agree. Wasn't thinking about that.

Outside of that corner, the parts of Livonia that go to Stevenson have some nice big new homes.
Yep. You can tell the school district boundaries just by driving through the neighborhoods.
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:42 AM
 
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Livonia and Farmington Hills are both on a downward spiral, IMO. Neither area is remotely "bad" but both towns are definitely getting worse.

Who do you think is moving to all those new homes in Northville, West Novi, Lyon Twp, etc.? Just drive 10 mile from, say Wixom Rd. to Milford Rd. Nothing but big homes going up everywhere. People with money are moving out of places like FH because the schools have deteriorated.
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Old 07-22-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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Livonia and Farmington Hills are both on a downward spiral, IMO. Neither area is remotely "bad" but both towns are definitely getting worse.

Who do you think is moving to all those new homes in Northville, West Novi, Lyon Twp, etc.? Just drive 10 mile from, say Wixom Rd. to Milford Rd. Nothing but big homes going up everywhere. People with money are moving out of places like FH because the schools have deteriorated.
Farmington Hills and Livonia are respectively huge and a lot of it depends on what neighborhood you are in. In Livonia, most subs that feed into Stevenson High are fine to very nice while areas that feed into Franklin or Churchill are mostly in decline. However, Livonia recently downsized their school district and Farmington announced today that they are looking to do the same, which is never a good sign when it comes to stability.
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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Oh, for heaven's sake. Farmington and Farmingon Hills are far from being on a "downward spiral." The school district in Farmington Hills has been ENORMOUS and continued to expand for many, many years. So many baby boomers with families, you know? Now there are more boomers who have lived here for decades, and their kids don't yet have children or have moved away for work. The new generation with little kiddies is moving more slowly, family-wise, but they are here, too!
Personally, I think that a smaller, well-run school district could be a very healthy thing.

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Old 07-22-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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Oh, for heaven's sake. Farmington and Farmingon Hills are far from being on a "downward spiral." The school district in Farmington Hills has been ENORMOUS and continued to expand for many, many years. So many baby boomers with families, you know? Now there are more boomers who have lived here for decades, and their kids don't yet have children or have moved away for work. The new generation with little kiddies is moving more slowly, family-wise, but they are here, too!
Personally, I think that a smaller, well-run school district could be a very healthy thing.
Yes, from a financial standpoint they had to do it. But the closures signal to potential buyers that far fewer families are considering the district if no one is replacing the baby boomers. I lived in Livonia when they went through the "Legacy Initiative" district downsizing. It did irreparable harm to the image of LPS that the district is still grappling with a decade later. Livonia is viewed as an aging community that's no longer in the top tier of school districts. It's not bad, but nowhere near what it used to be. I think Farmington/Farmington Hills are headed down the same road, unfortunately.
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Old 07-22-2015, 03:00 PM
 
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Oh, for heaven's sake. Farmington and Farmingon Hills are far from being on a "downward spiral." The school district in Farmington Hills has been ENORMOUS and continued to expand for many, many years.
None of this is true. In fact, Farmington Hills schools announced they're closing six schools today, including Farmington Harrison High.

The community, like so many older suburbs, has challenges, and is not as desirable as in the past. Affluent families are leaving FH.

If your district is shrinking, there's only one reason- parents prefer other districts. Novi, Northville, South Lyon are all fast-growing. Farmington Hills, Livonia, Clarenceville, Southfield are all shrinking. This isn't rocket science as to why.
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