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Old 04-27-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Pontiac isn't out of the woods. They sold the Phoenix Center in January, after not being able to afford to maintain it. It's a good move in the right direction, as it brings a new business into Pontiac which will repair and maintain the facility and it takes a large number of liens off of Pontiac's books. However, Pontiac still doesn't have the financial wherewithal to support Arts, Eats and Beats...yet.
I do not think they sold it.

The Deal with BoonEx did not work out. They were going to buy both Ottowa towers and Pheonix center/parking deck. This should have resolved the lawsuit between Ottowa towers and the City of Pontiac over the parking deck maintenance. BoonEx decided they did not want Ottowa towers. Now with Ottowa Towers not included in the deal, the lawsuit is not resolved. If BoonEx wants Phoenix center, it will probably have to make a deal with Ottowa towers to resolve the pending lawsuit However as of February there was no sale of Phoenix Center. The sale that was anticipated in January did not happen. Apparently, as of February, BoonEx was still interested in Phoenix Center, but I am not sure whether that interest remains. They are focused on moving their operation to another location in Pontiac right now. Phoenix Center is potentially a liability unless someone with some capital steps in and buys and repairs it. The City was planning to tear it down.

BoonEx opts out of Ottawa Towers purchase, pursues Phoenix Center
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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Inkster was kind of built out of racism and poverty. During the times when blacks weren't allowed to live in Dearborn, but chose not live in Detroit, they had to move to Inkster. So of course, like many areas of Detroit, Inkster fell into crime and decay when nearby factories closed or downsized. Pontiac was affected by this as well, but the main difference between the two cities, I think, is that Pontiac is in a better location and has better resources to bounce back.
You're overtly flirting with the idea high concentrations of blacks = RIP to the town. Pontiac isn't as helpless because.....ummm.....reasons.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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You're overtly flirting with the idea high concentrations of blacks = RIP to the town. Pontiac isn't as helpless because.....ummm.....reasons.
It was more a long the lines that just racism in general was downfall of these areas. Pontiac has more blacks than Inkster so... what?
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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You're overtly flirting with the idea high concentrations of blacks = RIP to the town. Pontiac isn't as helpless because.....ummm.....reasons.

I think you are referring to the comment: Pontiac was affected by this as well, but was able to bounce back more. That reference is pretty clearly to the closing of the auto plants not to the racial make up of the city. They could have put in a paragraph break, but I think the reference is pretty clear. Lets not start strectching to find prejudice where it isn't what the poster wrote.
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Old 04-28-2017, 12:51 PM
 
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Pontiac isn't out of the woods. They sold the Phoenix Center in January, after not being able to afford to maintain it. It's a good move in the right direction, as it brings a new business into Pontiac which will repair and maintain the facility and it takes a large number of liens off of Pontiac's books. However, Pontiac still doesn't have the financial wherewithal to support Arts, Eats and Beats...yet.
Pontiac is definitely not out of the woods. McLaren-Oakland in Pontiac has wanted to move to Clarkston for a while. That would be a major knock to the city.

I don't think that place can ever prosper with the Silverdome corpse being on display. They also have so much residential blight to tear down. And poverty is rampant - it's not like you can just relocate tens of thousands of welfare recipients. Pushing them out of Pontiac would just make Clarkston, Rochester, Troy, Bloomfield Township worse.
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Old 04-28-2017, 03:40 PM
 
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Blight isn't that bad, nothing that can't be fixed with some investment. Silverdome has no effect on the actual city, the only time you see it is from the side of the highway. It's odd for you to bring that up, it's also being torn down so you won't have to worry. McLaren just expanded and renovated their labs in Pontiac so I doubt they're going anywhere anytime soon.

Also, your tone is very condescending, welfare recipients? really now? Nobody said anything about "relocating" people. How about we don't fuel segregation? Crazy thought, right?
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Old 04-29-2017, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Inkster probably takes the cake. That's the one suburb where most people in Detroit would refuse to move to. Crime is just as bad the only difference is it's boring af. Literally nowhere to go in Inkster. Do they even have events there in the summer? The way Inkster people show up to all of Detroit's events/ amenities (Greektown brawl) it seems like there is nothing going on out there in Inkster.
Nowhere to go in Inkster? What about Louis VIII?

All kidding aside Inkster has always had a bad reputation. My dad grew up in Garden City and it was even considered a "no go" when he was growing up in the 50's, 60's and early 70's.
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Old 05-01-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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Pontiac is definitely not out of the woods. McLaren-Oakland in Pontiac has wanted to move to Clarkston for a while. That would be a major knock to the city.

I don't think that place can ever prosper with the Silverdome corpse being on display. They also have so much residential blight to tear down. And poverty is rampant - it's not like you can just relocate tens of thousands of welfare recipients. Pushing them out of Pontiac would just make Clarkston, Rochester, Troy, Bloomfield Township worse.
So apparently the town suffers the same fate as the car brand named after it.
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Old 05-01-2017, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor MI
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So apparently the town suffers the same fate as the car brand named after it.

The car brand and city were both named after an Ottawa Indian Chief who lived from about 1720 to 1769.
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Old 05-01-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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So apparently the town suffers the same fate as the car brand named after it.
Hush, you know nothing.
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