Detroit suburbs (Ann Arbor, Livonia, Troy: new house, established neighborhood, maintenance)

[Geo-Aggie]

Originally Posted by craig11152

I am not sure why you feel the need to frequently insult and belittle people to make a point. But folks reading that who live in Canton happily can rightfully feel insulted. It seems to be a reoccuring theme (need?) in many of your posts.

I strongly believe that sprawl is unsustainable and the #1 cause to the blight issues in Detroit and metro-wide infrastructure issues, so yeah, I speak up when additional sprawl is encouraged by posters. Sprawl needs to be strongly discouraged.

[y2c313]

Michigan desperately needs anti-sprawl legislation. There's literally no justifiable reason to be building out so far from the central city.

[mgkeith]

Have people here been advocating for sprawl? I haven't noticed that.

[craig11152]

Originally Posted by Geo-Aggie

I strongly believe that sprawl is unsustainable and the #1 cause to the blight issues in Detroit and metro-wide infrastructure issues, so yeah, I speak up when additional sprawl is encouraged by posters. Sprawl needs to be strongly discouraged.

says the guy who lives in a suburb. One that was founded 90 after Canton. If you want to bang on sprawl move to Detroit instead of a suburb 3 municipalities north. Don't just define your suburb as "old school" and thus OK when its 90 years younger than Canton. If you hate sprawl why do you defend regional transportation? All that does is encourage sprawl.

[KayAnn246]

Originally Posted by snoopygirlmi

Canton does have some nice things going for it. I hated living at Ford+Haggerty, but Canton has a really great library and community center.

Not every town fits every person.

I like the suburban lifestyle. Others don't. It's really okay that people have different preferences.

I'm the first to admit that I struggle with the small town lifestyle of South Lyon. I love it in some ways, but in other ways, I would prefer not to drive at least 20 minutes to get to anywhere that has the big box stores (Meijer, Aldi, Target, etc) and (more) dining options.

That was the only thing good about living at Ford and Haggerty - everything was right on Ford and there were lots of options close to home. Here, not so much.

I'm not a fan of Ford and Haggerty. No matter what time of day you across its path, it's dangerous. Other than that, Canton is nice. The population is continuing to increase at a rapid pace.

[Geo-Aggie]

Originally Posted by craig11152

says the guy who lives in a suburb. One that was founded 90 after Canton. If you want to bang on sprawl move to Detroit instead of a suburb 3 municipalities north. Don't just define your suburb as "old school" and thus OK when its 90 years younger than Canton. If you hate sprawl why do you defend regional transportation? All that does is encourage sprawl.

Lol, this is quite possibly the most specious post I have ever seen on this forum. Good job. Like, seriously, I'm not even annoyed by how well you worded this to support the point you're trying to make. I give you props on your ...technically correct.. post even if, well... you're a smart guy; I think you've already formed my response for me. I also don't really want to get into a "my suburb is better than your suburb" pissing match

Interstate expansions with express lanes, subsidized greenfield development, and a proliferation of 8 lane divided mile roads encouraged sprawl. Functional public transit is needed to help address the symptoms of a problem that been around since the 1940s, but spiraled out of control sometime in the mid-70s.

[craig11152]

Originally Posted by Geo-Aggie

I also don't really want to get into a "my suburb is better than your suburb" pissing match

Dude that is exactly what you did (started) and the only reason I responded. Your mean spirited attack on Canton that was insulting to anybody who might live there.

And for the record I don't personally know anyone who lives there, nor have I ever lived there.
I just thought your attack was completely uncalled for. Canton exists, its not going away any time soon so why do you need to be so mean spirited about your frustration?

[KayAnn246]

Originally Posted by craig11152

Dude that is exactly what you did (started) and the only reason I responded. Your mean spirited attack on Canton that was insulting to anybody who might live there.

And for the record I don't personally know anyone who lives there, nor have I ever lived there.
I just thought your attack was completely uncalled for. Canton exists, its not going away any time soon so why do you need to be so mean spirited about your frustration?

I think it's funny. You have to laugh and pass negative comments. Canton is great and growing. Canton is no different in sprawling outlets and houses than in Novi, Farmington Hills, Northville or any other Detroit suburb. The buildings may be taller but it's not a different world.

[Coldjensens]

Originally Posted by KayAnn246

I think it's funny. You have to laugh and pass negative comments. Canton is great and growing. Canton is no different in sprawling outlets and houses than in Novi, Farmington Hills, Northville or any other Detroit suburb. The buildings may be taller but it's not a different world.

If you mean to say all the suburbs have buildings in them, you are correct in that observation. If you mean to refer to the character, layout, atmosphere, and style of living, well I will just suggest you get out and explore a bit more. And No I do not mean go to some open houses in McMansion subdivisions on the outskirts of Northville or somewhere in a formerly empty township.

Detroit Metro suburbs are extremely different. That is what the area is so terrific. Ye, you can find a lot of places that resemble Canton, (many have a different character), but you will find a lot more that do nto at all resemble Canton. That is why we have such a great region. there are suburbs for people who like community, character, and or history, there are places for people who prefer soulless suburbia, there are places for people whose most important issue is convenient big box shopping or high end malls, there are places for people who want to raise chickens and cows and yet work in a major company located in a major city, there are even places for people who prefer urban or semi urban lifestyles. There are cute small towns, modern trendy towns, endless sprawl, you name it it is here. . We have it all. You can spend the rest of your life exploring the area and you will never finish familiarizing yourself fully with the variety (well, unless you are 8, then you might finish in a lifetime).

[KayAnn246]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

If you mean to say all the suburbs have buildings in them, you are correct in that observation. If you mean to refer to the character, layout, atmosphere, and style of living, well I will just suggest you get out and explore a bit more. And No I do not mean go to some open houses in McMansion subdivisions on the outskirts of Northville or somewhere in a formerly empty township.

Detroit Metro suburbs are extremely different. That is what the area is so terrific. Ye, you can find a lot of places that resemble Canton, (many have a different character), but you will find a lot more than do nto at all resemble Canton. That is why we have such a great region. there are suburbs for people who like community, character, and or history, there are places for people who prefer soulless suburbia, there are places for people whose most important issue is convenient big box shopping or high end malls, there are places for people who want to raise chickens and cows and yet work in a major company located in a major city, there are even places for people who prefer urban or semi urban lifestyles. There are cute small towns, modern trendy towns, endless sprawl, you name it it is here. . We have it all. You can spend the rest of your life exploring the area and you will never finish familiarizing yourself fully with the variety (well, unless you are 8, then you might finish in a lifetime).

I know Detroit Metro very well. I grow up here. I have friends and family in over 10 cities in Metro Detroit. I visit most of them frequently. I'm not referencing the buildings. I was referring to the comment about the mega McMansions, over-fertilized lawns, 3 car garages, and the outlet stores. Canton has a very unique character and history. Plymouth does as well. It is one of Metro Detroit's fastest growing and largest populated city/township. Builders can't build homes fast enough in Canton. Real estate agents have told me the area is in very high demand. There is a good reason for that alone. I didn't say every part of the city.

For example, the historic Cherry Hill Village is one of a kind in the state. There is nothing soulless about that. The only way you will need to spend the rest of your life exploring Metro Detroit is if they keep building at the rate they are building. I doubt the building at a rapid pace will continue. I was active duty Army for many years. I 've traveled to many cities international and domestic. I know charm and character when it comes to suburbs, city, and charm.