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Old 11-11-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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please tell me what historic landmarks you are talking about?

Can we start with the place Anita Baker tore down?
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:38 AM
 
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Statistically, Detroit is the worst major city in the country and one of the worst in the first world.
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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Having been born in Detroit and raised in the suburbs there, I am happy that I left last month. In metro Detroit, I was laid off four times in 18 months due to lack of business activity. At the last job I suffered an abusive employer but was so desperate for income I endured it. Then I went over seven months with no job at all. Here, I found a job (actually had THREE job offers) in less than a week, a job where the business is constant, and steady, and the customers are not tight with their wallets. I'm in NYC BTW. I will never go back home, ever. Even though I miss my family, the sheer hatred I have for the area trumps it. I was miserable there- with everything- the weather, the "union mentality", the horrid economy, the urban and suburban blight and deterioration, empty storefronts. The ignorance and dullness of the people, their sheltered, clueless, and ignorant ways. The complete lack of true culture. The conformist mindset. I could go on and on. The area is toxic, radioactive, and will not improve. Why? Because of the people. They are sheep, and until they learn better, which is impossible for them, things will not change.
+1, especially to the bolded.

And it's not so much the culture that's bothersome either, rather it's the fact that people around here are in denial of their backwards culture and then the vicious backlash when someone points it out. They think what's normal is normal everywhere else, whic his furthest from the truth. Then we wonder why half of the time we can't even get basic things done (COBO hall dispute, Water Department dispute, MASS TRANSIT, could go on and on).

And outsiders (you know, people who can bring in NEW wealth to the state and help our economy to grow) don't want to deal with that.
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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I know this thread was posted a couple years ago but Detroit is actually not a bad city (has it changed alot since 2008?? )

But i have been to Detroit a handful of times. I been to the MoTown Winterblast. Been to every Casino. I remember joyriding on Woodward all they up to Royal Oak (btw i really hope that light rail gets built) Ive also checked out other Suburbs such as Birmingham and Mt Clemens and they are great towns. I can easily say Detroit Suburbs are better than MPLS - STP Suburbs.

Its surprising how much people bash on a city they never been to before.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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Light rail again.

Detroit can't afford a fully funded police department, fire department or even keep a Science Center open and the PM loses $5,000,000 a year, yet light rail will save the place.

Bob,

In your own words, what are the top three reasons to build light rail? Not enough parking downtown? Freeways too congested? Other?
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Old 11-11-2011, 03:55 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure this is why you didn't get along here.

The people of Detroit don't like Debby Downers, though we have way too many.

Also, not every ones' idea of a good time involves a Broadway show or some other dick-measuring contest of "cultural" activity.

Some people just like to fish, garden, drink, and have a good time.

I'm guessing you're pretty young though, and wouldn't know any better.

Also, Chicago-Style Pizza is better.
Besides, Detroit has one of the largest theater districts in the COUNTRY.

The entire area west and south of Comerica Park near Grand Circus is stil considered one of the largest theater districts in the country: The Fox and the Flimore (formerly State theater) and the Gem theater and the Opera house along Madison (and a couple others around there). nearby I know theres a place called St. Andrews Hall.

SW from Grand Circus you may have the sad remains of the Michigan Theater and the United Artists theater.

Then you have the Masonic Temple which will hopefully be a center for improvement in that area, The Fisher Theater in New Center, and countless smaller venues for theater and music in Midtown: The Magic Stick, Orchestra Hall, the Bonstelle, A place called the Reperatory.

For all of Detriots problems, I don't see how one can EVER say that Detroit doesn't have enough arts and entertainment. As long as you don't mind driving, and passing by a bordered up, abandoned building, It may be far from NYC, but Detroit is among the Top ten, (closer to tenth). cities for arts and entertainment.
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Old 11-11-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: southern california
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that is not so. falljah is much worse, well at least during the day.
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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I know this thread was posted a couple years ago but Detroit is actually not a bad city (has it changed alot since 2008?? )

But i have been to Detroit a handful of times. I been to the MoTown Winterblast. Been to every Casino. I remember joyriding on Woodward all they up to Royal Oak (btw i really hope that light rail gets built) Ive also checked out other Suburbs such as Birmingham and Mt Clemens and they are great towns. I can easily say Detroit Suburbs are better than MPLS - STP Suburbs.

Its surprising how much people bash on a city they never been to before.
Yes,

Oakland County is still among the top wealthiest counties in the country. And Ann Arbor is home to one of the countries top public universities. There is plenty of Educated and affluent people surrounding Detroit in SE Michigan.

All that needs to be done, is tear down abandoned buildings, make downtown/midtown/corktown even safer, and more attractive.

(and as far as the comment about where to find money for light rail) it will ulimately pay in the end, because all those young professionals from the surrounding area will be attracted to there.

Detroit and has the means necessary to be great again, for the simple fact that the forces that made the city great are just on the other side of Telegraph and 8 mile.

Like restoring wetlands, when the bust levees and drainage tiles on farm fields that were wetlands long ago, when you reflood the areas, the vegation, birds and wildlife make a comeback, because thats what those places were meant for.

Same with Detroit.
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:25 PM
 
Location: west mich
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that is not so. falljah is much worse, well at least during the day.
Thanks, keep us posted on what Limbaugh is saying. We don't get enough Fox parroting on this forum.
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Old 11-11-2011, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I dunno, I've seen what drug wars in Latin America look like and people have to go through...we're not worst in the world. No where even close.
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