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Old 11-28-2011, 09:54 PM
 
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Worst city in the world? Please come visit me; I'll set you up in our gated community and we will drive the neighborhood just outside the gate - that will give anyone a perspective on how great Detroit is!
No place in Afghanistan is first world.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Here.
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Too bad the federal government isn't as willing to rebuild Detroit as it is in Afghanistan! I think Detroit has some hearts and minds that need winning over! Detroit could also use some extra patrols on the streets.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Detroit needs diversity in its population. According to City Data, Detroit's population is 76 percent black. There is no way you can revitilize a city without a diverse populace. Other than that, Detroit is a gorgeous city with lots of potential.

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Old 11-29-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: DC/ BR
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Detroit is a chrystal ball of what the rest of the U.S. will become.
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Old 11-29-2011, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Detroit needs diversity in its population. According to City Data, Detroit's population is 76 percent black. There is no way you can revitilize a city without a diverse populace. Other than that, Detroit is a gorgeous city with lots of potential.
Diversity has little to do with it.
You don't need a racial-ethnic rainbow, in order to create a healthy society or a great city.

Most of the cities on the world's "Great places to live" list, were built long before the word "diversity" came to signify multiculturalism, and racial-ethnic co-existence.

Illiteracy, dysfunction, neglect and corruption have everything to do with it. Racial tension and animosity (from all sides) contributed to the city's demise.

If you had 76% Black college graduates,
all healthy, drug free, productive, decent and honest, committed to their families and communities....
you'd have an entirely different city.

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Old 11-29-2011, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Alba
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Do you know of any very low cost homes in Michigan?
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Diversity has little to do with it.
You don't need a racial-ethnic rainbow, in order to create a healthy society or a great city.

Most of the cities on the world's "Great places to live" list, were built long before the word "diversity" came to signify multiculturalism, and racial-ethnic co-existence.
Actually, diversity in this particular case is imperative and it has a lot do with it. We are not talking about diversity in the context of what was built in previous years or decades or before the word diversity was in vogue, but rather what is needed now. Obviously, the current population can't pull it off on its own so a bit of other cultural input will help.

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Illiteracy, dysfunction, neglect and corruption have everything to do with it. Racial tension and animosity (from all sides) contributed to the city's demise.
And do you think that culture has nothing to do with these treats you just mentioned?

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If you had 76% Black college graduates,
all healthy, drug free, productive, decent and honest, committed to their families and communities....
you'd have an entirely different city.
Key word "If" which is very different from being a fact. Please name a city in North America or the world for that matter with these characteristics.
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Old 11-30-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Actually, diversity in this particular case is imperative and it has a lot do with it. We are not talking about diversity in the context of what was built in previous years or decades or before the word diversity was in vogue, but rather what is needed now. Obviously, the current population can't pull it off on its own so a bit of other cultural input will help.

And do you think that culture has nothing to do with these treats you just mentioned?

Key word "If" which is very different from being a fact. Please name a city in North America or the world for that matter with these characteristics.
All points taken.
But I don't think we're talking just about culture here. When I hear the word culture used in this context, I get the creeps, especially as the dominant "White Culture" in North America and the UK has been experiencing a very steep downward slide.

It's not like we have a lotta role models to look up to for inspiration and guidance. We also have a decadent, corrupt White elite, that "gets away with murder" and impunity.
To me Detroit is more about $$$ and class.

I simply wanted to say that IF the 76% Blacks had what it takes to resuscitate the city, hypothetically they could do it.
They wouldn't need any "intervention".
There would be no need for "ethnic/class engineering".

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Old 12-03-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Detroit needs diversity in its population. According to City Data, Detroit's population is 76 percent black. There is no way you can revitilize a city without a diverse populace. Other than that, Detroit is a gorgeous city with lots of potential.
Diversity is not required to be build a vibrant city or country. Japan is 98.5% ethnically Japanese not much diversity there and it seems to be pretty successful.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Actually, diversity in this particular case is imperative and it has a lot do with it. We are not talking about diversity in the context of what was built in previous years or decades or before the word diversity was in vogue, but rather what is needed now. Obviously, the current population can't pull it off on its own so a bit of other cultural input will help.

And do you think that culture has nothing to do with these treats you just mentioned?

Key word "If" which is very different from being a fact. Please name a city in North America or the world for that matter with these characteristics.
I guess you're right in this case. Detroit needs people who come from backgrounds with high intellect, folks who don't view themselves as perpetual victims, etc.
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