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Old 09-18-2008, 07:32 AM
 
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It depends on where you are. Downtown Detroit is considerably nicer than many downtowns in the US. I would live downtown if I did not have children. However the surrounding area is solid decaying blight with a few pockets of nice. If you just compare downtowns, Detroit will rank very well. If you consider the entire urban area (but not suburbs) Detroit is horrid. Add the suburbs in and you are back to one of the better cities. I cannot think of any other city with as many terrific suburbs as Detroit has.
I agree. This post nails it perfectly.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:03 PM
 
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no i dont think i ever heard something is stupid as "too many blacks in the city " you have to understand michigan thrived on the auto industry meaning you didnt have to have a high school education to work in a plant or a supplier company and make very good money now that is crumbling we are seeing the effects , there are alot problems yes, first everyone has their hand in the cookie jar everyone needs to be fired in the city of detroit and start over get honest hardworkering people in, as far as the foreclosure rate that is everywhere people tend to focus on detroit because it is the largest city in the state, people are losing their homes everywhere to ,do we just give up on are city?? or do we find ways to solve the problems .
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:51 PM
 
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Dre71 states:

"There are people trying to help but it wont really have much of an impact cause most detroiters just dont care."

"People living in detroit just dont care about detroit. If they did it wouldnt look like this."

Well Dre71, since Detroit is 82% black, what does that say about blacks folks? 700,000 black folks live in Detroit, are saying that the majority don't care?

Why do we have to move to white communities in order to to get

well-maintained houses
good schools
safe streets
good shopping options
lower taxes and insurance
well-maintains roads and parks?

Can we demonstrate that we are capable of achieving such things?

Them white folks in the suburbs are probably sneering at us saying, "look at all these blacks moving to the suburbs to be amongst us because they can't take care of business amongst themselves"

It's embarrassing.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Florida and New England
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Why do we have to move to white communities in order to to get

well-maintained houses
good schools
safe streets
good shopping options
lower taxes and insurance
well-maintains roads and parks?

Can we demonstrate that we are capable of achieving such things?
Of course none of this list would be achieved by moving. The implication of moving is that someone else provides these things, which is not how it works. This is a list of things that citizens build and maintain themselves. I would add that Detroit actually had all of these things in the 1960s.
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Old 01-22-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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Tell that to the mayor.
I would say tell it to the Big Three! They've had the same stranglehold on Detroit for a century now, and the current mayor is a good buddy of the one who was just drummed out in disgrace.
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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Default Detroit has reached it's expiration

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I would say tell it to the Big Three! They've had the same stranglehold on Detroit for a century now, and the current mayor is a good buddy of the one who was just drummed out in disgrace.

Not quite..I believe the current mayor and the previous were opposites and never agreed..

Detroit, as a friend who lived there most his life said, "IS THE WILD WEST WITHOUT HORSES"

It does no good to say this happened or that did not happen...whatever caused it has happened and NO ONE HERE IS WILLING TO FIX "IT."

I do believe that Detroit has imploded and it is affecting Wayne county to the point that it is dying as well.

Go into Oakland, Macomb, Washtenaw, Livingston and even Lennawee Counties and they are all but unaffected by what goes on in Detroit.

For too long we have been told as Detroit goes so goes the State...(ok well may be there is some truth to that if we read the paper.)

But in truth I really believe that Michigan will improve much faster once Detroit is left out of the economic equation--I just believe that Detroit has ecomonically expired--even the casinos FAILED to create the prosperity promised and the city is even further in debt..(BOOGIE MANSION??)

If it isn't bad planning it is senseless lawsuits and payouts to people like Bobby F??

Detroit and Wayne county are beautiful places with so much to offer--but why attempt to access it when there is nothing but RESISTANCE??


Don't sell the DIA but sell the Rackham golf course??

Don't sell the zoo but we would sell the Tunnel??

What has happened to the city's priorities?

What has happened to the "jewel of the river?"


THE BIG THREE BUILT DETROIT

IT WAS MANUFACTURING THAT GAVE DETROIT LIFE...


Oh before I forget--

If you left Detroit Come on back--
We missed you the first time...
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:41 AM
 
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I think that one of the things holding Detroit back is that we can't seem to get over the auto industry. Is discussing what Detroit used to be ti always comes around to how the Big 3 were booming in the 40s and 50s and as they declined, so did Detroit. We all know that already. It's old news. It's tired. However, it seems that people are content to sit around and wait for the auto industry to rebound, which isn't going to happen. Face it, the world has changed. To quote My Hometown by Bruce Springsteen "those jobs are goin' boys, and they ain't comin' back."

We need to get over it and adapt. These things happen. Just like New York and the textile industry in the early 20th Century, and Pittsburg with the steel industry in the 60s. We need to change. The day we finally stop worrying about the Big 3 and start looking at other industries we can bring to the area is the day that things can change.
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:06 AM
 
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I think that one of the things holding Detroit back is that we can't seem to get over the auto industry. Is discussing what Detroit used to be ti always comes around to how the Big 3 were booming in the 40s and 50s and as they declined, so did Detroit. We all know that already. It's old news. It's tired. However, it seems that people are content to sit around and wait for the auto industry to rebound, which isn't going to happen. Face it, the world has changed. To quote My Hometown by Bruce Springsteen "those jobs are goin' boys, and they ain't comin' back."

We need to get over it and adapt. These things happen. Just like New York and the textile industry in the early 20th Century, and Pittsburg with the steel industry in the 60s. We need to change. The day we finally stop worrying about the Big 3 and start looking at other industries we can bring to the area is the day that things can change.
This is true! I wrote a blog about it, and I'll cut and paste it a little later.

Basically what it says, is that Detroit sat on its' successes and didn't remain relevant and make the necessary adjustments in ever changing world of technology.

Detroit needs a NEW ID. and a NEW INDUSTRY (a few more)

I didn't realize how behind the times Detroiters were with reference to the internet, until I started my group, and began to get responses

You talk about an eye-opener! I was shocked to learn that Most homes don't have a computer, and the ones that do, don't have the internet, and the ones that do, only utilize it for email, myspace, video games, etc.

Which started me to theorize the blue collar nature of the city. One of my members pointed out that paying $700 or more for a computer is not a priority given the type of jobs held by many Detroiters and doesn't merit the expense of a high speed internet connection.

On one hand I understood the statement, on the other I didn't! How did we as Detroiters STOP GROWING, EVOLVING & LEARNING?

In my opinion, the Auto Industry made it easy for unskilled workers to make a decent living, and with the promise of a steady paycheck no one felt the need to leave their comfort zone, and developed a "Plant Mentality'

Now before you shoot me, My Father was a 35 year employee of FOMOCO, starting at the Foundry, so I'm not coming after auto workers, not at all. I believe many people who stayed on a J-O-B for 10 years or more find themselves scrambling to learn another set of skills to stay afloat in a failed economy.

I mentioned in another thread that I love this city of Detroit, and I want the madness to stop. Someone mentioned Detroiters don't care, I don't believe that's necessarily accurate. I think they're more people that care that don't but they FEEL outnumbered and frustrated.
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Old 01-26-2009, 06:59 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I would rather live in Detroit than Tegucigalpa, Honduras. Any day of the week.
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Old 01-26-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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I would rather live in Detroit than Tegucigalpa, Honduras. Any day of the week.

Are they hiring there?
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