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Old 07-23-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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I'm sure these have been done before...sorry if its redundant.

Maybe it should follow the economic policies of successful, booming towns like Houston, Atlanta, Austin, Dallas, Charlotte, Chicago, etc.
What's their secret? I have no idea what other cities are doing to succeed.

There ARE places to go in Detroit after dark, not to mention in broad daylight. The Motor City casino being a pretty good example; the yearly jazz festival; the auto show; the Dream Cruise; all kinds of theaters and restaurants; stadium concerts and sporting events; museums and some great shopping.
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Old 07-23-2009, 06:26 PM
 
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Downtown Detroit has only a fraction of the places in the city and the citizenry. Most Detroiters live outside of the Downtown area.

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Anwhere you go? No place is safe?

Have you ever been to Detroit?

Downtown is nothing like it was 30 years ago.

The mayor is not a criminal. He is a decent guy. The former mayor went to jial, perhaps that is who you mean.

This is 2009.
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Old 07-23-2009, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Let me start by stating that I'm not from Detroit. I'm from the Chicago area and lived in the actual city of Chicago for four years. I have been to downtown Detroit a couple of times and was impressed by the friendliness I encountered there.

I am also inspired by many things that people are doing right now to help the D move forward.

The Green Garage is an organization that aims to train people job skills in one of the fastest growing sectors of the economy--green technologies and sustainability-based goods and services.

There's the 23-year old Heidelberg Project, which involved the conversion of vacant homes on the East Side to vibrant, colorful works of art. This attracts about 275,000 visitors each year.

The extensive urban farming projects that have begun in the empty areas of the city that provide fresh food to residents with no nearby grocery stores.

Add to that, a recent trip abroad yielded positive thoughts regarding Detroit from an international viewpoint. Why? Techno and Motown. Culturally, the D is highly regarded.

So 3 cheers to everyone working against the odds to restore Detroit and bring new industries and a renewed sense of community there. And as I set my sights on exploring this great country looking for people with a sense of community, let me tell you all, I see it in Detroit more than anywhere else. It would be easy to go west and find solace amongst the hipsters of Portland, Seattle or San Francisco, but that would be the trendy thing to do. And succumbing to that kind of trendiness, like so many people I know have done or want to do, does not yield any lasting satisfaction. The people who are working to better their communities anywhere, but especially in Detroit, should be fully aware that their actions are being noticed and are a source of inspiration for this 28-year old Illinois man.

That right there, is enough in my mind to eliminate Detroit from ever being considered the worst city in the U.S.
I like the spirit of your post, particularly since I'm one of the kinds of people who did go out and live in NYC, Portland and San Francisco

I have become more interested in Detroit, as its the main city in my home state. But still, the concept of bringing a wife and kid into the city to do something I think would be pretty cool and interesting - like urban farming or other type of activity (probably wouldn't, but I like the idea). The commitment to that is too great as well and I have NO money whatsoever, I don't even own my own car, so with so much possibility of failure, that isn't really worth risking failure with a family dependent on a person.

Also, I generally feel that Detroit is basically...ahmm...a 'chocolate city' that prefers to remain 'chocolate'. So there is a question that remains - do they really want the white boy and his wife and kid going in thinking he's doing some kind of 'public works' of some kind?

Whereas when you're white in a very mixed city of all kinds...you just appear to be an active member of the community, and not the 'white guy down here'. Plus in my understanding, being active in predominately black communities, there is always too much suspicion and questioning the motives...even when you read Obama's autobiography and he was down in the southside of Chicago...he wasn't really from Chicago, and he wasn't really black enough - in most people's minds - but he was still at least black. So anyways, the idea of some white guy going in and trying to start green technologies or urban farming or bringing in other ideas...that are seen by other people....just wondering what the implications are of that exactly.

Also, if I were say 25 or 30 and single again, and could just 'give it a shot', and move right back out again...but it's not the case. I do like the basic concept of your post quite a bit though.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:41 AM
 
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OK, so the Heidelberg Project hasn't gotten a whole lot of city support, and parts of it have been demolished on two separate occasions. But plenty of it still exists, and they're working on a couple of new houses. This is according to its website.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:53 AM
 
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Detroit is definately not the worst city in the world, by a long shot. Probably close to the top in comparison to other North American cities...but still I see hope when I'm down there. If we can get the overall economy to turn around then there's a chance.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:59 AM
 
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I like the spirit of your post, particularly since I'm one of the kinds of people who did go out and live in NYC, Portland and San Francisco

I have become more interested in Detroit, as its the main city in my home state. But still, the concept of bringing a wife and kid into the city to do something I think would be pretty cool and interesting - like urban farming or other type of activity (probably wouldn't, but I like the idea). The commitment to that is too great as well and I have NO money whatsoever, I don't even own my own car, so with so much possibility of failure, that isn't really worth risking failure with a family dependent on a person.

Also, I generally feel that Detroit is basically...ahmm...a 'chocolate city' that prefers to remain 'chocolate'. So there is a question that remains - do they really want the white boy and his wife and kid going in thinking he's doing some kind of 'public works' of some kind?

Whereas when you're white in a very mixed city of all kinds...you just appear to be an active member of the community, and not the 'white guy down here'. Plus in my understanding, being active in predominately black communities, there is always too much suspicion and questioning the motives...even when you read Obama's autobiography and he was down in the southside of Chicago...he wasn't really from Chicago, and he wasn't really black enough - in most people's minds - but he was still at least black. So anyways, the idea of some white guy going in and trying to start green technologies or urban farming or bringing in other ideas...that are seen by other people....just wondering what the implications are of that exactly.

Also, if I were say 25 or 30 and single again, and could just 'give it a shot', and move right back out again...but it's not the case. I do like the basic concept of your post quite a bit though.
You make plenty of good points, here.

It's interesting, too, that you bring up the South Side of Chicago, because that's where my last year living in the city of Chicago was spent. The three previous years were on the trendier North Side. The South Side is more historic and family oriented, and much like Detroit, it gets a bad rap. Suburbanites perceive south Chicago to be one giant bad neighborhood. I can attest to that notion as being false. There are plenty of great neighborhoods there. Sure, you won't find the nightlife as you might on the North Side, but there are still plenty of things to do, tremendous parks, arts centers and other gems the ignorant folks are missing out on. Some of the most integrated and diverse neighborhoods are on the South Side.

So then I got to thinking, if popular beliefs of the South Side of Chicago can be inaccurate, then why take the popular beliefs of Detroit with anything other than a grain of salt? Surely there's stuff there that can be celebrated.

I do see your point about those who may not want the "white guy" there. And I'm in no position myself, financially or otherwise, to go to Detroit and get involved. I just want those who are working hard there to know that it is definitely going noticed.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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Noticed by who, I see white people in Detroit, yea downtown Detroit, passing through Detroit, even coming to Detroit to support their drug habits, but not many who actually live here. I rarely see a white person just walking down the street, maybe in SW Detroit with the Hispanics which a lot of the idiots over there is still gang banging so I don't see why a white person would want to live in southwest, I don't know maybe they feel they want be accepted in the inner city where its chocolate or they could be just some racist pricks and don't want anything to do with blacks. Anyhow, I've notice that the city is trying to bring it together by restoring the downtown part, but until there is more employment opportunities for the people who live here and do want to live a average life but are not giving the option so they move out of town rather than joining the rest of the city criminal behavior.
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Old 08-25-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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detroit is a slum, I was a cop there for 10 yrs. there is no nice side of town maybe decent neighborhoods surrounded by the ghetto. when they got rid of residency for city workers, we all ran and escaped. the city will never turn around! too much crime,corruption and overall lazy welfare bums in the city to make a difference. it has been a dump for the last 30 yrs and will continue to be a dump.
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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^Well, then why didn't YOU do something about it, Mr or Mrs. COP?
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Old 08-30-2009, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Kittanning
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I used to have hope for Detroit. I thought the city had so much potential. But year after year, the historic landmarks of Detroit are being destroyed. Soon the city will be nothing but a large parking lot and a few civic buildings in between.
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