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Old 04-29-2009, 09:14 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Michigan residents should fight for Michigan to become right-to-work so it can pick up auto factory jobs from VW, Toyota and Nissan as they continue to put Americans to work in plants they build.

Right to work in Michigan will mean RIGHT TO WORK FOR LESS and WORK MORE HOURS..
DO NOT--PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE the right to work is the salvation for Michigan labor.

Right to work will only provide BIGGER bonuses and STOCK OPTIONS for the CEOs.

Come on down here and see how RIGHT TO BE POOR laws really work in America--home of the UNEMPLOYED and land of FORECLOSURES..
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Old 04-29-2009, 09:16 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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of course they're going to mexico. this is the united states of GREED. we value money, not people.
All too true...

People are the pawns

Labor creates wealth

And when Chrysler goes, it will be the laborers that take the bullet, not NARDELLI...or Cerberus...
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:41 AM
 
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All too true...

People are the pawns

Labor creates wealth

And when Chrysler goes, it will be the laborers that take the bullet, not NARDELLI...or Cerberus...
So true.....

not MI related but WTH is up with this country ?!?!? We are just bleeding jobs and companies... the greed has got to stop.

Hershey moving to Mexico?-Truth!
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Old 04-30-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: D-town (technically a suburb, cause "and the" said so)
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Right to work in Michigan will mean RIGHT TO WORK FOR LESS and WORK MORE HOURS..
DO NOT--PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE the right to work is the salvation for Michigan labor.

Right to work will only provide BIGGER bonuses and STOCK OPTIONS for the CEOs.

Come on down here and see how RIGHT TO BE POOR laws really work in America--home of the UNEMPLOYED and land of FORECLOSURES..
Absoulutely correct! Look at the mess Arizona is in. They are not any better off than we are right now and they are a right to work state. I know, I lived there for 11.5 years. They're unemployment is rising everyday and they are the highest when it comes to property value decreases.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Area, Michigan
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Right to work in Michigan will mean RIGHT TO WORK FOR LESS and WORK MORE HOURS..
DO NOT--PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE the right to work is the salvation for Michigan labor.

Right to work will only provide BIGGER bonuses and STOCK OPTIONS for the CEOs.

Come on down here and see how RIGHT TO BE POOR laws really work in America--home of the UNEMPLOYED and land of FORECLOSURES..
A lot of Michiganders are moving down there and finding work. There was a nice article I think at the beginning of April in the Detroit news about it.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Michigan residents should fight for Michigan to become right-to-work so it can pick up auto factory jobs from VW, Toyota and Nissan as they continue to put Americans to work in plants they build.
It couldn't hurt.

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of course they're going to mexico. this is the united states of GREED. we value money, not people.
The USA is the most generous nation in history.

Currently we suffer from a drought of quality, principled leadership at the top.
There is little shame left, in general, as a society. This started with children having children and being cheered on as "speshul."
Then CEOs could bankrupt corporations and walk off with tens of millions. See the "Merger of Equals" starring our Great Leaders Eaton and Lutz--oops, did I tread on a local hero here?--for the ruination of a good corporation. I have heard not a twitter from any of the engineers of this debacle saying, "Man, did I screw up!" NOT ONE WORD.

No honor, no integrity.

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Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28 View Post
Right to work in Michigan will mean RIGHT TO WORK FOR LESS and WORK MORE HOURS..
DO NOT--PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE the right to work is the salvation for Michigan labor.

Right to work will only provide BIGGER bonuses and STOCK OPTIONS for the CEOs.

Come on down here and see how RIGHT TO BE POOR laws really work in America--home of the UNEMPLOYED and land of FORECLOSURES..
We lack the balance of union support for workers and the free market where companies can hire and fire who they want to.

When the corporations have all the power, workers are often abused to the point of disability or death.

When the unions have all the power, corporations are forced to keep the lazy,the useless, and the destructive workers aboard, to the point where they retire and further suck the corporate coffers dry.

This hurts the company AND it hurts the honest, hard working employee.

Meanwhile, in Washington where there should be leadership, instead we see an illegal swallowing up of corporate America.
Nationalizing the banks was illegal. There is no constitutional authority for the president and the congress to turn our nation into a socialist/communist paradise.
Yet in the name of power, they do it with the full support of the unions and many other angry, anti-business ignoramuses.

Little do these people know while lies in wait for them down the road, especially should they ever veer from the party line.

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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I do nto understand why anoyne puzzles over this. In Mexico, workers perform labor for $7.50 per day. IN the US people turn down jobs at $25.00 per hour. It is not rocket science. If you have to compete, you have to build products cheaply. Paying people well is great. Going out of business and layig them all off is not so great.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:03 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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So true.....

not MI related but WTH is up with this country ?!?!? We are just bleeding jobs and companies... the greed has got to stop.

Hershey moving to Mexico?-Truth!

It truly is a NATIONAL problem. I wonder what the southern right to be poor states will look like in 10 years when BMW, TOYOTA, and HONDA close up factories here to relocate in Michigan cause the labor is cheaper?

THIS WHOLE COUNTRY DESERVES a big W T F as the entire labor force is being decimated across the board..

RIGHT TO WORK STATES will not stop the BLEEDING..

If we do not stand up now

There will be NO ONE working to stand up for you and me..
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Hmm "AMERICAN" moving to Mexico.. This is getting a bit out of hand.. What next?
Last time I looked, Mexico was still in South AMERICA.

Ya, know, we don't have the corner on the market calling ourselves AMERICAN. Canada and Mexico and a few other countries are on the AMERICAN continents too.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:06 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I do nto understand why anoyne puzzles over this. In Mexico, workers perform labor for $7.50 per day. IN the US people turn down jobs at $25.00 per hour. It is not rocket science. If you have to compete, you have to build products cheaply. Paying people well is great. Going out of business and layig them all off is not so great.

But paying Bob NArdelli 20-40 MILLION is business?

The other CEOs who earn double and sometimes triple digit millions a year is good for business?

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY ANYONE PUZZLES OVER WHERE THE WEALTH REALLY COMES FROM------L A B O R plain and simple--THAT'S A FACT..
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