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Old 12-14-2017, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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A friend just sent me this so thought I'd add it here:

file:///C:/Users/Lenovo-3/Downloads/Logical%20Health%20Alternatives%202017.12%20(1).pd f
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Old 12-15-2017, 04:21 AM
 
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Maybe you could reset that link as its not openable in current config.
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Old 12-15-2017, 07:55 PM
 
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I can't seem to change this link, but found this info by the doctor on the above info.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ0EwPVNS1M
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Old 12-15-2017, 10:32 PM
 
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Jamin dont you get a little skeptical of a product that claims so much?
And why isnt my doctor prescribing this stuff for my medical maladies?

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Old 12-16-2017, 07:31 AM
 
Location: The Driftless Area, WI
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"Pycnogenol is used for treating circulation problems, allergies, asthma, ringing in the ears, high blood pressure, muscle soreness, pain, osteoarthritis, diabetes, attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), a disease of the female reproductive system called endometriosis, menopausal symptoms, painful menstrual periods, erectile dysfunction (ED), and an eye disease called retinopathy."

The traveling medicine shows used to call the stuff "Snake Oil." I think the description above just left off "dandruff & brain fever."
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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Jamin dont you get a little skeptical of a product that claims so much?
And why isnt my doctor prescribing this stuff for my medical maladies?

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No, I'm more skeptical of the drugs shoveled by the doctors. I've been into alternatives for over 25 yrs and that's a lot of proof and work I do. I just had some swelling in my good foot/ankle (arthritis) and decided to give myself a extra strength dose of grape seed extarct 600mg before I went to sleep the other night and in the morning the swelling and pain was about gone. These powerful antioxidants have been around for 60 some yrs and just to the U.S. in the last 25 yrs or so. And we still don't know just how much dosing to use for what....it's trial and error....but no side effects.

Functional Medicine is here to stay and getting more strong in it's use. Not snake oils as the old pharma groups have chosen to label them. This medicine industry doesn't have the millions/billions to spend on research for one thing that pharma spends.

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fun...cine-here-stay

There are 1000's of drugs and 1000's of supplements.

And the Truth is in what people use and what help they get as I can see it.

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Old 12-16-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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"Pycnogenol is used for treating circulation problems, allergies, asthma, ringing in the ears, high blood pressure, muscle soreness, pain, osteoarthritis, diabetes, attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), a disease of the female reproductive system called endometriosis, menopausal symptoms, painful menstrual periods, erectile dysfunction (ED), and an eye disease called retinopathy."

The traveling medicine shows used to call the stuff "Snake Oil." I think the description above just left off "dandruff & brain fever."
And Edema, big time. And we're still working to find doses for it's uses. I just got rid of edema the other night with 600mg grape seed ex ... this was starting in my good arthritic foot/ankle.

It finally got to the US from France about 25 yrs ago when I was blessed to be at the right place at the right time for it to come into my life.

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Old 12-16-2017, 04:21 PM
 
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No, I'm more skeptical of the drugs shoveled by the doctors. I've been into alternatives for over 25 yrs and that's a lot of proof and work I do. I just had some swelling in my good foot/ankle (arthritis) and decided to give myself a extra strength dose of grape seed extarct 600mg before I went to sleep the other night and in the morning the swelling and pain was about gone. These powerful antioxidants have been around for 60 some yrs and just to the U.S. in the last 25 yrs or so. And we still don't know just how much dosing to use for what....it's trial and error....but no side effects.

Functional Medicine is here to stay and getting more strong in it's use. Not snake oils as the old pharma groups have chosen to label them. This medicine industry doesn't have the millions/billions to spend on research for one thing that pharma spends.

Is Functional Medicine Here to Stay? | GreenMedInfo | Blog Entry

There are 1000's of drugs and 1000's of supplements.

And the Truth is in what people use and what help they get as I can see it.
Personally i'll believe my doctors recommendations for the drugs i need rather than some guy no ones ever heard of on an infomercial selling stuff that is also unheard of and is unregulated for quality or content. I also believe if this stuff does what it claims big pharma would be making billions off the sale of the product.
THE BOTTOM LINE

The evidence supporting supplements made from French pine bark is not convincing.
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Old 12-16-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Personally i'll believe my doctors recommendations for the drugs i need rather than some guy no ones ever heard of on an infomercial selling stuff that is also unheard of and is unregulated for quality or content. I also believe if this stuff does what it claims big pharma would be making billions off the sale of the product.
THE BOTTOM LINE

The evidence supporting supplements made from French pine bark is not convincing.
That some guy is an MD and skeptics will always be around. I'm a skeptic too but for many other reasons.

Big pharma can't patent this STUFF and they need their patients to need their medicines.
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Old 12-17-2017, 03:04 AM
 
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The guy claims to be an MD selling a product that claims to be a cure-all for just about everything.The doctors i see have offices and work in hospitals many of whom i've known for decades,i trust their judgement and if there were products out there that could cure my ailments they would be prescribing them.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/colum...-buyer-beware/
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